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<p>I agree.</p>
<p>Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/04/2019 13:43, Seun Ojedeji
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<div dir="auto">Jordi I don't think you've done anything wrong,
you've proposed a policy, and it's in order as far as am
concerned. If a member believe some part of the text needs
further reconsideration then he/she should state that clearly
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<div dir="auto">I would not expect any author to propose a
draft without some form of personal analysis/checks(detailed
or not) as that is what will better inform the problem
statement. I hope the discussion will focus on the substance
of the proposal and not on whether the author have done
sufficient analysis or not.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Regards<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 8 Apr 2019, 12:17
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD, <<a
href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="ES-TRAD">Hi Seun, all,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="ES-TRAD"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">(trying to be in the middle-point here)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">As a very frequent author, not just in
AfriNIC, but in all the RIRs, what I can say is that
I always try to verify that the policy proposals are
in-line with the bylaws, agreements, PDP and RIR
scope. That’s why I mention before, that I’ve
re-read today all those documents, in case I’ve
missed anything when I was working in the proposal
text.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">Obviously, this is not “stated” in the
PDP, but I think is somehow a must for any possible
co-author willing to contribute in an efficient way,
and avoids waste of time for the staff and
community. Note here, that I don’t consider waste of
time when a proposal doesn’t reach consensus, is
part of the process, but when a poorly written
proposal or clearly against the scope of AfriNIC is
submitted.</span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">That said, clearly a single pair of
eyes (or a few of them when several co-authors), is
not as efficient as doing as well:</span></p>
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<li
class="m_70896304422366390m_711804822701911365MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">The staff
assessment.</span></li>
<li
class="m_70896304422366390m_711804822701911365MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Community
discussion.</span></li>
<li
class="m_70896304422366390m_711804822701911365MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Efficient
evolution of the proposal, track of
changes/suggestions/improvements along the
discussion and the staff assessment.</span></li>
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lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">I
think this is clearly the intent of the PDP,
overall.</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><br>
Regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="ES-TRAD">Jordi</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="ES-TRAD"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El
8/4/19 17:51, "Seun Ojedeji" <<a
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escribió:</p>
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from my mobile</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Kindly
excuse brevity and typos</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Hello
SM,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On
Mon, 8 Apr 2019, 11:13 S. Moonesamy, <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">sm+af@afrinic.net</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Hi
Seun,<br>
At 07:57 AM 08-04-2019, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<br>
>Since you were once a pdwg co-chair how
about you share your <br>
>experience about how the analysis work was
done during your time. <br>
>You may also want to point to the section
of the PDP that suggests <br>
>that it isn't staff that does draft
analysis (since you authored it)<br>
<br>
I used to do an analysis of a proposal (as
author) before submitting it.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">SO:
The question was not whether you do analysis as
author but whether you do so and publish same as
co-chair. Since you seem to basically be saying
that the author of the proposal being discussed
may not have done an analysis? though you didn't
point me to where that was required in the PDP?
You could simply ask him for the specific analysis
you are hoping for instead of directing that to
the co-chairs</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">The
last time I checked an author including his/her
analysis isn't a requirement but including a
problem statement is. It is then up to the author
to decide on whether including some analysis will
be useful to better provide clarity on the problem
statement.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">The
analysis/review that is however required and
mandated by the PDP is that of staff.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Regards</p>
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Regards,<br>
S. Moonesamy </p>
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