<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le dim. 9 déc. 2018 à 13:36, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div style="direction:ltr">So please - I do not object to people stating facts - but if anyone wishes to make an accusation like this - they need to back it up with credible evidence of the claim - so can you substantiate what you said below?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Which one? Abuse of community trust? (I recall a certain M Alston once call it "The Elkins Rule" of getting on board whether you were wanted by community or not)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Or that, you have never see a group of people gather round during a meeting to canvas support for their proposal? Whether it be over beer, lunch or print of t-shirt?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="direction:ltr">
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 9, 2018 08:52<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark Elkins<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Benjiro
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<div dir="ltr">Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 22:35, Mark Elkins <<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" target="_blank">mje@posix.co.za</a>> a écrit :<br>
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<p>Ha! - but that is exactly what happened in Dakar - and I was on the receiving end of it.</p>
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<div>No Mr Elkins,</div>
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<div>You work very hard to make this community to DISTRUST you a long long long time ago with the contempt you show to the community. </div>
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<p>So now the shoe is on the other foot?<br>
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<p>I've seen this time and time again - a group of OIF sponsored folk gathering around people such as Alain at the back of the meeting hall - chatting in whispers.<br>
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<div>How is that different from any other group gathering around bottles of beer or whiskey to make strategy on how to push their policy? If you were not as condenscending of African people, maybe they will come to you instead.</div>
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<p>Actually - I would suspect that very few people at an AfriNIC meeting pay for themselves personally to go there (or even contribute themselves) - that is, out of their own personal pocket vs the Company paying. I've done that for the past two meetings I
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<div>Congrat. I am happy that you are able to do that. But before those last two meeting, you have also attended more than 10? 20? other meeting based on sponsorship. Actually I think no one should ever be elect to board if they have never pay with their own
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<div>I agree with you about the walk-in people. AFRINIC must do something about it. That one reason why I don't like consensus based only on room attendance. </div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 7, 2018 4:29:20 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Benjiro</font>
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Rumor...well evidence collected has it you are Benjiro.<br>
I wonder how the community will react.<br>
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