<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">Hi Frank,</span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Thanks for your interest in our proposal that seeks to address the usability conditions of the "unforseen future reserve".</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">As stated in the problem statement, this proposal intends to solve a situation which may occur if the reserve space is unused after Afrinic pool is exhausted(no-more). A case in which the Afrinic board may act on its discretion following section 5.4.7.2</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">More inline</div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 5 nov. 2018 à 12:53, Frank Habicht <<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz" class="">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Hi,<br class=""><br class="">how (under which policies) would any of that reserved /12 be used before "AFRINIC, can no longer meet any more requests for address space" ?<br class=""><br class="">I see no way how it can be used, since there seems no policy under which in can be used. [1]<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">There supposed not to be any policy on how to make good use of this reserve for "future use is yet unforseen" until a need to use it to address a particular use case arise.</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">In such case, one would expect the PDP to be followed (maybe through it's "varying processes"/ provision ) or the board acting according to section 15.4 of the bylaws.</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Lack of policy today, does not mean, there won't be need in future.</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">According to <a href="http://potaroo.net" class="">potaroo.net</a> (*) as of today, phase 2 will be triggered in July 2019 and we don't know how long will phase 2 last.</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">(*) <a href="http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html" class="">http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">If that's true, the "If the reserved /12 remains unused" will be true.<br class="">That would ( i mean: will ) trigger the inclusaion of the reserved /12 into the normal phase 2 free pool.<br class=""><br class="">the /12 will be reserved, there's no way (policy) how it could become used, when it's needed it will be included into the free pool.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">As demonstrated above, the reserve may be used or may not be used before the exhaustion pool dries out and the "If it remain unused " could be false.</div></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">That means the same as if it was never there. Just more paperwork.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Paperwork? In which sense?</div></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">That means we could just as well remove 5.4.7 (incl 5.4.7.1 and 5.4.7.2).<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">So we keep the reserve and use to replenish the exhaustion pool if unused and phase 2 pool cant no longer meet request for v4...</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">It is also worth mentioning that removing 5.4.7 without other provisions can make the /12 falls in phase 1 pool.</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">- Gregoire </div></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">Am I misunderstanding something?<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">Frank<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>