<div dir="ltr">I support the idea of using one attribute "abuse-c". I also support the idea mandatory.</div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Dear all,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">I support the idea of making this information mandatory and verified.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Hervé CLEMENT<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD [mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>]
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<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 10 octobre 2018 21:53<br>
<b>À :</b> Amreesh Phokeer<br>
<b>Cc :</b> <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [rpd] New proposal: Abuse Contact Policy Update<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Is only one attribute, but keeping two names.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I’m also on the same thinking, that just abuse-c is better, but there is no harm. Calling it with two names (if the people only need to update one), works well for tools that are relying
in the older one (but is true that very few folks use it in this region …).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Keeping both, may be a temporary measure until people update the new one (and the old data is transferred automatically, of course).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Jordi<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></b><span lang="ES" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Amreesh Phokeer <<a href="mailto:amreesh.phokeer@gmail.com" target="_blank">amreesh.phokeer@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Fecha: </b>miércoles, 10 de octubre de 2018, 21:48<br>
<b>Para: </b>Jordi Palet Martinez <<a href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es" target="_blank">jordi.palet@consulintel.es</a>><br>
<b>CC: </b><<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<b>Asunto: </b>Re: [rpd] New proposal: Abuse Contact Policy Update<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="ES">Hi Jordi,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="ES">On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:30 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <<a href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es" target="_blank">jordi.palet@consulintel.es</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">In fact, we can keep both, the IRT object and the abuse-c and make the whois in such way that respond with the same data to queries for IRT or abuse-c.</span><span lang="ES"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="ES">IMO, having only 1 attribute (abuse-c or mnt-irt) should suffice, having both of them might add confusion.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="ES">It could help to have a special WHOIS flag / option to extract the referred IRT/Abuse-c object directly from the inet(6)num/aut-num:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="ES">something like:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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