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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>My understanding is that is going to be in the other way around, and that’s why I did this proposal that way.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>However, at the end, despite if there are more legacy resources in one side or the other, it will depend on how many operations are done in each direction.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Paschal Ochang <pascosoft@gmail.com><br><b>Fecha: </b>miércoles, 14 de noviembre de 2018, 21:10<br><b>Para: </b><rpd@afrinic.net><br><b>Asunto: </b>[rpd] New Policy Proposal - Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (AFPUB-2018-GEN-003-DRAFT01 )<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br>If they are still legacy ipv4 addresses out there then we need to balance the quota of legacy resource inflow and outflow as it currently seems like Africa has more legacy ipv4 resources to harvest from. Correct me if I am wrong but I think other RIRs stand to benefit more from this policy than Africa.<br>On Thursday, November 8, 2018, Lee Howard <<a href="mailto:lee.howard@retevia.net" target="_blank">lee.howard@retevia.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>I haven't done my own analysis, but I'm told there are still thousands of legacy Class B's (/16s) that are unrouted or under-utilized.<br><br>Lee<br><br>On 11/8/18 7:11 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>The question generally is there any legacy IPv4 outside AfriNIC region that is not in use and could possibly be moved freely to Africa? I doubt. Hence, I don't see the need for this statement.<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>To: "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank">madomey@hotmail.com</a>>, "RPD" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>, "Sami Salih" <<a href="mailto:sami.salih@outlook.com" target="_blank">sami.salih@outlook.com</a>><br>Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 5:13:00 PM<br>Subject: Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (AFPUB-2018-GEN-003-DRAFT01)<br><br><br><br><br><br>Hi Marcus,<br><br><br><br>I’ve changed the subject so it is not confusing …<br><br><br><br>First of all, thanks for your inputs!<br><br><br><br>I recall the previous proposals, and I’m trying with this proposal, precisely, to protect the AfriNIC resources, but at the same time allow this region to participate in the global market and ensure that any operations are registered instead of happening under the table.<br><br><br><br>However, I have the feeling that you’re interpreting the text on the other way around.<br><br><br><br>This proposal is facilitating * any * IPv4 (and ASN) resources from other regions to be transferred to AfriNIC.<br><br><br><br>On the other direction * only * legacy IPv4 (and ASN) resources can be transferred from AfriNIC to other RIRs.<br><br><br><br>I will encourage you to read it again, and tell us where you believe that my text is broken so you are misunderstanding it, and ten I can do a better work in a new version.<br><br><br><br>Thanks!<br><br><br><br>Regards,<br><br>Jordi<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>De: "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank">madomey@hotmail.com</a>><br>Fecha: jueves, 1 de noviembre de 2018, 16:35<br>Para: RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>, Sami Salih <<a href="mailto:sami.salih@outlook.com" target="_blank">sami.salih@outlook.com</a>><br>Asunto: Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - Simple Update of the PDP (AFPUB-2018-GEN-002-DRAFT01)<br><br><br><br><br><br>Dear Jordi,<br><br><br>I have read the policy proposal you have submitted on October 26, 2018 and titled “Inter-RIR Resource Transfers” with the reference name AFPUB-2018-GEN-003-DRAFT01 [1].<br><br><br>You may recall, the IPv4 inter-RIR transfer proposal was previously discussed and withdrawn as it failed to rally consensus on the problem(s) it was supposed to address for this region.<br><br><br>This proposal stated :<br><br><br>"This Proposal currently does not attempt to address Legacy Resources (IPv4 and ASN's) - that is resources that are in the AFRINIC Region and were acquired before ARIN existed. Legacy Resources may be moved out of the AFRINIC region and redeployed freely. They may however be subject to the receiving RIR's policies."<br><br><br>Later on the community adopted an IPv4 Intra-RIR transfer policy which was implemented recently. The policy stated :<br><br><br>" 5.7.2 IPv4 resources to be transferred must be from an existing AFRINIC members account or from a Legacy Resource Holder in the AFRINIC service region."<br><br><br><br><br>Your new proposal uses different rhetoric with more elaborated background and problem statement which is addressing no issue of this community. The problems you put across don’t stand the test of validity. Rather, your draft policy is addressing the issue of lack of IPV4 in the other regions.<br><br><br>Your policy seems to propose inter-RIR transfer for IPV6 and legacy IPV4 and ASN. The need for these in our region is doubtful<br><br><br>I therefore oppose the policy<br><br><br>Thank you,<br><br><br><br><br>Marcus Adomey<br><br><br><br><br>[1] https :// <a href="http://afrinic.net" target="_blank">afrinic.net</a> / en /community/ policy-development / policy-proposals /2539-inter-rir-resource-transfers<br><br><br>[2] https :// <a href="http://afrinic.net" target="_blank">afrinic.net</a> /community/ policy-development / policy-proposals /1499-number-resources-transfer-policy<br><br><br><br>Get Outlook for Android<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>From: Sami Salih <<a href="mailto:sami.salih@outlook.com" target="_blank">sami.salih@outlook.com</a>><br>Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 9:37:20 AM<br>To: rpd<br>Subject: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - Simple Update of the PDP (AFPUB-2018-GEN-002-DRAFT01)<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Dears AFRINIC PDWG Members,<br><br><br>Greetings,<br><br><br><br><br><br>A new new policy proposal has been received and published as follows:<br><br>Proposal : Simple Update of the PDP<br>Ref.No : AFPUB-2018-GEN-002-DRAFT01<br>Author : Jordi Palet Martinez<br>Link : <a href="https://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2535-simple-update-of-the-pdp" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2535-simple-update-of-the-pdp</a><br><br><br><br>Your participation and contribution are welcome.<br><br>Sincerely,<br><br>PDWG Co-chairs<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Dr. Sami H.O. 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