<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Hi Andrew,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I know that the SL-BIS policy proposal still giving you insomnia, but relax.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It is bizarre that i co-authored the SL-bis since February 2016 and the Intra-RIR v4 transfer proposal, the 23rd may 2016 and you did not see the so-called conflict.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Now back to your point, i don't see how the SL-bis proposal submitted in February 2016 creates a v4 shortage. It was about "fair distribution of the last /8 of v4 and IPv6 deployment":</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">How does it solve the problem [<a href="https://afrinic.net/en/library/policies/archive/1609-soft-landing-bis" class="">https://afrinic.net/en/library/policies/archive/1609-soft-landing-bis</a>]</div><div class="">========</div><div class="">2) Summary of How this Proposal Addresses the Problem</div><div class="">This policy proposal solves the problem described above by:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Changing the value of the maximum allocation/assignment size during the exhaustion phase 1.</div><div class="">Imposing IPv6 resources as a pre-condition to IPv4 resource requests during the exhaustion.</div><div class="">Reserving address spaces for Critical Internet Infrastructure and new LIRs or End-Users.</div><div class="">Removing the minimum allocation size as this may evolve over time during the exhaustion period.</div><div class="">=====</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">and the proposal itself is clear:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-No explicit limit on the number of times an organization may request additional IPv4 address space during Exhaustion Phases(same as the soft landing policy implemented)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">We all know how it evolved and how the SL-SD(*) proposal came in and impacted the original proposal.</b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The Intra-RiR proposal was meant to address justified needs after exhaustion of Afrinic pool or when AFRINIC cant no longer satisfied such needs. It reached consensus (there was no appeal filled against) and has been implemented.. [<a href="https://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/archive/1785-ipv4-resources-transfer-within-the-afrinic-region" class="">https://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/archive/1785-ipv4-resources-transfer-within-the-afrinic-region</a>]</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">====</div><div class="">2) Summary of How this Proposal Addresses the Problem</div><div class="">The Policy solves the issue of an African organisation needing IPv4 number resources after the exhaustion of the AFRINIC IPv4 pool or when AFRINIC can no longer satisfy the needs of such an organization.</div><div class="">=======</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So, overall fair distribution from the last /8 and other remaining blocks and provisions to cover justified needs inside the region after AFRINIC pool exhaustion. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Where is this problem ? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You were accused with your proposal of soft-landing-overhaul(**) to fast track the exhaustion of the AFRINIC pool(distribute the last /8 with the max allocation size at /10 instead of the /13 as per current soft landing policy or /15 proposed by SL-bis proposal ) and i should have followed you if i was acting to promote a v4 market.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hope this clarifies and helps the discussions.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(*) <a href="https://afrinic.net/en/library/policies/archive/withdrawn-proposals/2089-soft-landing-sd" class="">https://afrinic.net/en/library/policies/archive/withdrawn-proposals/2089-soft-landing-sd</a></div><div class="">(**) <a href="https://afrinic.net/en/library/policies/archive/withdrawn-proposals/1623-soft-landing-overhaul" class="">https://afrinic.net/en/library/policies/archive/withdrawn-proposals/1623-soft-landing-overhaul</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">—Alain</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 5 Jun 2018, at 10:29, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Alain,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">You have actively supported and fought for the new soft landing policy – to artificially restrict space to entities that need it. <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Now, I’d like to ask – as an author of the soft-landing-bis policy which you have STILL not withdrawn… aren’t you just a LITTLE bit conflicted in trying to create an artificial shortage and make it hard for people to get space – while starting and founding an IP broker in Africa?<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Maybe now we understand the *<b class="">true</b>* motivations behind the soft landing bis policy….<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://ext-host.trstech.net/ipregistrar/trust_us.html" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); 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