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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Owen,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yeah, I know my example was to extreme … “I can have said just if a few addresses of a couple of /64 are actually used” …<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Just wanted to make sure with my example that “what it matters” is what the LIR has already assigned, not what is actually used by the customer. May be with my explanation I actually confused more than helped! Sorry about that!<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br></span><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com><br><b>Fecha: </b>viernes, 16 de marzo de 2018, 16:49<br><b>Para: </b>JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es><br><b>CC: </b>rpd <rpd@afrinic.net><br><b>Asunto: </b>Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal Received - “IPv6 Policy and References Update (AFPUB-2018-V6-001-DRAFT01)"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On Mar 16, 2018, at 05:55 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <<a href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es">jordi.palet@consulintel.es</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>Hi Fabian,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>Thanks for your input.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>I’m trying to understand what you mean and if it is different than what I’m proposing.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>My proposed text is:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>“In IPv6,"utilisation" is only measured in terms of the number of prefixes assigned to End Sites, not their size or the number of addresses actually used in those prefixes”</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>In IPv6 and end-site can have a /48 and only use at the moment, let’s say, for example, half of it (in terms of number of /64).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>???<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>It’s going to be a pretty big end site to use 32768 /64s. Most end sites will only use a tiny fraction of a /48 and that’s OK.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>That’s intended. Even if you only use a couple of /64s, it’s OK for you to have a /48.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>Utilization (from my understanding and also what is in the other RIR policies), is the full /48, because from the ISP perspective, this is already “on the hands” of a customer, and the ISP can’t take advantage of it anymore (unless the customer goes to another ISP).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>This is correct. For IPv6 to work as intended, the policy must consider things this way. To the best of my knowledge, that is already the case in all 5 RIRs.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>In fact, my text is the same as the actual policy text in the meaning. Just simplified “how” to say it.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>May be you can tell an example of what you mean?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>I think you and Fabian are expressing the same intent. Fabian is noting that historically, in IPv4, we have measured<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>addresses in actual use and deployed on devices rather than addresses assigned to customers.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>When scarcity is an issue, this is necessary to prevent, for example, an LIR irresponsibly assigning a /20 to a site<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>that really only needs a /29. In IPv6, where scarcity is not an issue and there is no benefit to be found in hoarding<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>excess addresses, this makes far less sense.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Owen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'><br>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>Jordi</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>De:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Fabian Jr <<a href="mailto:afabbie@hotmail.com"><span style='color:purple'>afabbie@hotmail.com</span></a>><br><b>Fecha:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>viernes, 16 de marzo de 2018, 13:49<br><b>Para:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Dewole Ajao <<a href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng"><span style='color:purple'>dewole@forum.org.ng</span></a>>, rpd <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"><span style='color:purple'>rpd@afrinic.net</span></a>><br><b>Asunto:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal Received - “IPv6 Policy and References Update (AFPUB-2018-V6-001-DRAFT01)"</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div id=divtagdefaultwrapper><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt'><a name="_MailOriginalBody"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Monaco'>i have read the document ...it looks ok...</span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Monaco'> </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Monaco'>i have one comment on section 6.1<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Monaco'> </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Monaco'>i would recommend Utilization to be measured by number of prefixes assigned to End Sites which already have any Whole Prefix or Partial Prefix(es) in actual use. This is because from a general understanding and practice on IP/IPs Utilization ...has been counted on the actual IP assigned to devices and online/in use.</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Monaco'> </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Monaco'>regards,</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Monaco'> </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Monaco'> </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Monaco'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div id=Signature><div id=divtagdefaultwrapper><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br></span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><em><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Arbogast Fabian,</span></em></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br></span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><em><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>cell:+255-78-447-8387</span></em></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:35.4pt;text-align:center'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><hr size=0 width="75%" align=center></span></span></div></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><div style='margin-left:35.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><b>From:</b></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Dewole Ajao <</span><a href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='color:purple'>dewole@forum.org.ng</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, March 16, 2018 12:51 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>rpd<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[rpd] New Policy Proposal Received - 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