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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-ZA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>No-one is saying that the committee mustn’t get on with their work, the comments are based on the reference:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>><a href="https://www.afrinic.net/images/timeline-2018-01-pdwg-appeal-committee.pdf">https://www.afrinic.net/images/timeline-2018-01-pdwg-appeal-committee.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>>1. Appeal Committee 1st Meeting – 19/01/2018 – week 1<span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>>c. List and request documents from AFRINIC that the Committee deems needed for the Appeal including i. RPD discussion summary on the policy<span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The points that have been made are that since this is an appeal, the appeal committee should be drawing their own conclusions from the source documents, not other subjective reports and summaries.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>We’d hate for the appeal committee to base their responses on summaries as that could lead to a rejection as vital pertinent information might be omitted in the summary. That would open a serious can of worms!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>That is the way I see this, if I am incorrect, please correct me (and please, only corrections from the appeal committee members, otherwise its hearsay and not fact.) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>My 2c<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Saul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Badru Ntege [mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 25 January 2018 01:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> Noah <noah@neo.co.tz>; Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> rpd List <rpd@afrinic.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Timeline for handling AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07 policy appeal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Members Members<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>We are all acting like the end of the world is nigh !!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>We have a committee that we have entrusted as the final Arbitrator. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Lets await the outcome and also be ready to accept the outcome and move on with AfriNIC work. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz">noah@neo.co.tz</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 11:58 AM<br><b>To: </b>Kris Seeburn <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>rpd List <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [rpd] Timeline for handling AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07 policy appeal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>On 25 Jan 2018 11:49 a.m., "Kris Seeburn" <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>I am not going going in circles i have faith that the independent appeals committee is gona do the job. But i’d prefer they do in in their own mind not to involve others such as staff to come to conclusion. But i’m saying i support them without them being influenced that’s my only issue. The people in the committee are laudable and respected by the community. I dont doubt that at all. But not to be influenced by emails, staff, or board. Thats what everyone wants. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>OK<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>And am waiting to see something right. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>You are doubting still. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Anyways, what is that something right?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Which would raise afrinic’s place in the RIR space.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Was AFRINIC place is the RIR space low which needs raising? [1]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Noah<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>[1]</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>IMHO, AFRINIC has done a great job since its inception unless if you think otherwise. We should all be proud.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>_______________________________________________ RPD mailing list <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>