<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">First, the fact that the board is responding to this query shows that the appeals committee is failing to do its job as the original question seems to me as being directed at the appeals committee and not the board.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Second, no, the board is not an autonomous body with no accountability to the community. Indeed, the board is elected by the resource members of AfriNIC who make up part of this community and the board is elected to act on behalf of the community in the management and strategic direction of AfriNIC.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I applaud Sunday’s efforts to look into the problem here and look forward to his reply to the community.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 18, 2018, at 6:47 AM, Kangamutima zabika Christophe <<a href="mailto:funga.roho@yandex.com" class="">funga.roho@yandex.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">En tant qu' organe suprême d'une organisation, le conseil d'administration n'a d'ordre à recevoir de personne. Elle agit avec son pouvoir discrétionnaire en conformité avec les textes qui la régit. Ceux qui ont interjeté appel sont supposés s'adresser à l'instance qui traite leur requête et le conseil d'administration fera ce qu'il a à faire.</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">18.01.2018, 12:08, "Sunday Folayan" <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@gmail.com" class="">sfolayan@gmail.com</a>>:</div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><p class="">Dear Saul,</p><p class="">I shall get back to you shortly.</p>Kind Regards ...<br class=""><br class="">Sunday.<br class=""> <div class="">On 18/01/2018 10:02, Saul Stein wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:06dc01d3903b$12aca190$3805e4b0$@enetworks.co.za" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class="">Could this email at least be acknowledged?</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class="">Thanks</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class="">Saul</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class=""> </span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div class=""><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><strong class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;" class="">From:</span></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;" class=""> Saul Stein [<a href="mailto:saul@enetworks.co.za" class="">mailto:saul@enetworks.co.za</a>]<br class=""><strong class="">Sent:</strong> 17 January 2018 03:36 PM<br class=""><strong class="">To:</strong> Andrew Alston <a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" class=""><Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com></a>; wafa DAHMANI <a href="mailto:wafa@ati.tn" class=""><wafa@ati.tn></a><br class=""><strong class="">Cc:</strong> <a href="mailto:pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net" class="">pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net</a>; AfriNIC Board of Directors' List <a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net" class=""><board@afrinic.net></a>; rpd <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class=""><rpd@afrinic.net></a><br class=""><strong class="">Subject:</strong> Re: [rpd] [pdwg-appeal] SoftLanding BIS notice of intent to appeal</span></div></div></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""> </p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class="">Dear All concerned, </span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class="">It’s a week on and we still have no timeline. While I don’t expect an answer on the appeal tomorrow (it would be nice), I do think it’s fair to promptly provide the community with time frames and milestones so we know where we stand and can manage our expectations.</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class="">Board, please can you confirm that you will not be making any decisions on this policy until the appeal has been completed.</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class="">Thanks</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class="">Saul</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class=""> </span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div class=""><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><strong class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;" class="">From:</span></strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;" class=""> Andrew Alston [<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" class="">mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>]<br class=""><strong class="">Sent:</strong> 10 January 2018 06:40 AM<br class=""><strong class="">To:</strong> wafa DAHMANI <<a href="mailto:wafa@ati.tn" class="">wafa@ati.tn</a>><br class=""><strong class="">Cc:</strong> <a href="mailto:pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net" class="">pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net</a>; rpd <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""><strong class="">Subject:</strong> Re: [rpd] [pdwg-appeal] SoftLanding BIS notice of intent to appeal</span></div></div></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""> </p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;" class="">Wafa,</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;" class="">Can you please provide this body an indication of when we will receive the timeline to deal with the appeal as is required by the appeal process.</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;" class="">Andrew</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;" class=""> </span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><strong class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="" class="">From: </span></strong><span lang="EN-GB" style="" class="">wafa DAHMANI <<a href="mailto:wafa@ati.tn" class="">wafa@ati.tn</a>><br class=""><strong class="">Date: </strong>Tuesday, 9 January 2018 at 22:20<br class=""><strong class="">To: </strong>Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br class=""><strong class="">Cc: </strong>rpd <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>, "<a href="mailto:pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net" class="">pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net" class="">pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""><strong class="">Subject: </strong>Re: [pdwg-appeal] SoftLanding BIS notice of intent to appeal</span></div></div><div class=""><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11pt;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class="">Dear Andrew,</span></div></div><div class=""><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class="">On behalf of the appeal committee</span></div></div><div class=""><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class="">We acknowledge receipt of your <span style="background:white;" class="">appeal against the declaration of consensus regarding policy proposal AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07.</span></span></div></div><div class=""><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class="">Best Regards</span></div></div><div class=""><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div style="text-align:center;" align="center" class=""><hr align="center" size="2" width="100%" class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><strong class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class="">De: </span></strong><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class="">"Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br class=""><strong class="">À: </strong>"rpd" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>, <a href="mailto:pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net" class="">pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net</a><br class=""><strong class="">Envoyé: </strong>Vendredi 29 Décembre 2017 17:45:24<br class=""><strong class="">Objet: </strong>[pdwg-appeal] SoftLanding BIS notice of intent to appeal</span></div></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Hi PDWG Appeal Committee,</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Please consider this notice of intent to appeal against the declaration of consensus regarding policy proposal AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">The appellants no longer have the belief that this situation can be resolved in the absence of an official appeal – and emails sent requesting engagement within 48 hours have gone ignored and unanswered.</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">The issue has been discussed with the requisite number of members as per section 5.2.(d) of the appeal committee terms of reference as indicated by the emails from:</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Owen De Long</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Saul Stein</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Andrew Alston</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Sander Steffann</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Mark Elkins</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">All these emails were sent within the last 48 hours as of the time of writing this email.</span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">The full appeal documents will follow within the next 24 hours that we believe will clearly demonstrate that the co-chair’s decision to declare consensus was in error and should be forfeit. </span></div><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; 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Managing Director
General data Engineering Services (SKANNET)
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Phone: +234 802 291 2202, +234 816 866 7523
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