<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">What fraud?</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">There can be numerous people named Alan Levin; Alan Barett; Levin Barett and Jacob Odame. </div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">J</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Alan Levin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alan@futureperfect.co.za" target="_blank">alan@futureperfect.co.za</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear Chairperson and CEO<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">The following looks like there is fraud happening at AfriNIC:</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Jacob Odame-Baiden <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:odamyte@gmail.com" target="_blank">odamyte@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I am worried that this Jacob Odame might be impersonating my account. I am an AFRINIC 25 Fellow and my exact name buy a different email address is being used to communicate on this forum. I will entreat admin to verify and deal with this.<div dir="auto">I need to be sure that there is another Jacob.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I am hoping as a small LIR and Internet Society activist, that you can please pay attention and assist to provide some kind of decorum :(</div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Alan Levin</div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="m_-5808988317719625585HOEnZb"><div class="m_-5808988317719625585h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 Dec 2017 18:21, "Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.c<wbr>om</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div style="direction:ltr">Ignoring the underlined bolder hyperbolic, let me comment bluntly and simply:</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">I will do whatever I feel necessary to protect the industry in which I work. I will do whatever I feel necessary to protect the consumers of internet services on this continent. I will react to any threat that I see to the industry
or to the consumer - and I make no apologies for it.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">We keep referring to how the “community” wants something or doesn’t want it - yet the reality is - we are a divided community - divided on linguistic grounds - divided on geographic grounds - divided on ideology.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">The statements made about the will of the community as based on the absurd notion that only one segment of the community has any validity - and anyone who disagrees is not part of said community or is some how the enemy - this is
not the case - but that is how it is portrayed.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">I will not get into the specifics of any particular policy in this email - but I will say this - should AfriNIC and the policies by which it operates become a threat to the industry at large in any portion of this continent - or
compromise the growth of internet penetration on this continent in violation of section 3 of the bylaws - or act outside of the laws under which it is governed - be they the companies act - the bylaws - the competitions act - or the very procedures and policies
that have been ratified through legitimate board mandates - then do not cry foul when people react - especially after repeated warnings.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">I am beyond threats - beyond intimidation - and quite frankly beyond being cowed into submission by people claiming that is what I am attempting. I act in the manner that I see best for the industry - and if indeed there is no
violation of the law - and if indeed correct procedures and policies have been followed - then my actions represent no threat. The threat only exists if you acknowledge wrong doing in the first instance.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">As for wanting to do AfriNIC harm - you are incorrect in this as well - I have no desire to do harm to AfriNIC - however - the good of the industry and the African consumer outweighs Afrinic - and if in sincere belief I am acting
in the best interests of those two groups and that requires that I act against AfriNIC - so be it - it is not from a desire to do harm - it is from a desire to protect an industry I hold dear and that I have worked my entire adult life to promote across large
segments of this continent.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">So yes - I am now taking actions - actions for which I make no apologies - and which are the pure result of repeated and ignored warnings about the consequences of actions. It strikes me - and maybe I am misreading this - that
a particular group of individuals are hell bent on seeing their policies past - no matter the consequences to the industry - and expect to have others let them behave in a matter that is completely contrary to community consensus or the good of the collective
industry - that is naive in the extreme.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">So in summary - I will act - always within the bounds of the law - and to the best of my abi.oty - to protect the industry - to protect the consumer - and I will make no apologies for this.</div>
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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 03:45<br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Competitions Tribunal Petition<br>
To: Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:andrew.alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">andrew.alston@liquidtelecom.c<wbr>om</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">It is now brutally clear that Andrew's position is that <b><u>he is either right or righ</u></b>t and that he will<b><u>anything</u></b> to cause harm to our very own registry AfriNIC when his position conflicts with that of the community.
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<div>It is also clear that he does not take the community's views in any esteem and regard since<b><u>he wants a government to force the AfriNIC Board to push policies top down</u></b> to us the community.</div>
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<div>A very absurd situation. </div>
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<div>I know that the appeal committee and AfriNIC Board will not budge to threats and intimidation and will exercise good judgement for the good of the entire community and not a privileged, loud and malicious few. The continent<b><u>should not and cannot be
held ransom</u></b> by such individuals.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Andrew Alston <span dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Everything stated here is done in my personal capacity and is not necessarily representative of the views of any organization to which I am affiliated.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">It is a sad day when it comes to this – but due to the significant business risks imposed by the potential ratification of the soft-landing policy, and the boards lack of response to repeated
queries as to AFRINIC’s violation of Mauritian law – the time has come to now test these potential violations and to see if there is any recourse.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Since this document contains direct reference to issues of policy that would normally fall under the RPD – I am sending this to the list. Those who wish to join the petition to the competitions
tribunal can print this – sign it – and scan it back to me. This document will be submitted to the competitions tribunal within the next 14 days – to give people a chance to digest its contents and decide for themselves if they believe they wish to be party
to this action.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Note: As per the rules of the competitions tribunal – any signatory on these documents will be confidential and the names of the complainants will not be disclosed to AFRINIC – so there is no
risk of victimization here. Any signed copies received by myself shall be held in strictest confidence other than for the purposes of submission to the commission.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Please also note – the submission of this petition shall in no way prejudice the right to potential litigation against AFRINIC should companies and individuals feel that such is warranted.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Yours Sincerely<span class="m_-5808988317719625585m_-5338922860240606848m_5973422282826967876HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p>
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