<div dir="ltr">Hi<div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Saul Stein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:saul@enetworks.co.za" target="_blank">saul@enetworks.co.za</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-ZA" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_-1502877129689945105m_-1157093706862003953WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Could this email at least be acknowledged?</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1 - could not agree more!!!</div><div><br></div><div>My greatest hopes and ambitions is that we as Africans can decolonialise Africa as this is clearly needed in this situation.. I fear that it can't come soon enough :( </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-ZA" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_-1502877129689945105m_-1157093706862003953WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> Saul Stein [mailto:<a href="mailto:saul@enetworks.co.za" target="_blank">saul@enetworks.co.za</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 17 January 2018 03:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.c<wbr>om</a>>; wafa DAHMANI <<a href="mailto:wafa@ati.tn" target="_blank">wafa@ati.tn</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net" target="_blank">pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net</a>; AfriNIC Board of Directors' List <<a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net" target="_blank">board@afrinic.net</a>>; rpd <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>></span></p><div><div class="m_-1502877129689945105h5"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] [pdwg-appeal] SoftLanding BIS notice of intent to appeal<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p></div></div><div><div class="m_-1502877129689945105h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Dear All concerned, <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">It’s a week on and we still have no timeline. While I don’t expect an answer on the appeal tomorrow (it would be nice), I do think it’s fair to promptly provide the community with time frames and milestones so we know where we stand and can manage our expectations.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Board, please can you confirm that you will not be making any decisions on this policy until the appeal has been completed.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Saul<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> Andrew Alston [<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidte<wbr>lecom.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 10 January 2018 06:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> wafa DAHMANI <<a href="mailto:wafa@ati.tn" target="_blank">wafa@ati.tn</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net" target="_blank">pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net</a>; rpd <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] [pdwg-appeal] SoftLanding BIS notice of intent to appeal<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">Wafa,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">Can you please provide this body an indication of when we will receive the timeline to deal with the appeal as is required by the appeal process.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">Andrew<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">From: </span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">wafa DAHMANI <<a href="mailto:wafa@ati.tn" target="_blank">wafa@ati.tn</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 9 January 2018 at 22:20<br><b>To: </b>Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.c<wbr>om</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>rpd <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>, "<a href="mailto:pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net" target="_blank">pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net" target="_blank">pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [pdwg-appeal] SoftLanding BIS notice of intent to appeal</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Dear Andrew,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">On behalf of the appeal committee<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">We acknowledge receipt of your <span style="background:white">appeal against the declaration of consensus regarding policy proposal AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07.</span><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Best Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">De: </span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">"Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.c<wbr>om</a>><br><b>À: </b>"rpd" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>, <a href="mailto:pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net" target="_blank">pdwg-appeal@afrinic.net</a><br><b>Envoyé: </b>Vendredi 29 Décembre 2017 17:45:24<br><b>Objet: </b>[pdwg-appeal] SoftLanding BIS notice of intent to appeal<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Hi PDWG Appeal Committee,</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Please consider this notice of intent to appeal against the declaration of consensus regarding policy proposal AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">The appellants no longer have the belief that this situation can be resolved in the absence of an official appeal – and emails sent requesting engagement within 48 hours have gone ignored and unanswered.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">The issue has been discussed with the requisite number of members as per section 5.2.(d) of the appeal committee terms of reference as indicated by the emails from:</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Owen De Long</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Saul Stein</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Andrew Alston</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Sander Steffann</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Mark Elkins</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">All these emails were sent within the last 48 hours as of the time of writing this email.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">The full appeal documents will follow within the next 24 hours that we believe will clearly demonstrate that the co-chair’s decision to declare consensus was in error and should be forfeit. </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Yours Sincerely</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Andrew Alston</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" 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