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<div style="direction: ltr;">As you say Noah - agreeing to disagree is ok and normal - so why can we not do that in the case of this proposal - there are a large segment of the community who disagree with it - and if we agreed to disagree - we go back to the
status quo and there is no consensus - instead it seems we are being “forced to agree” - but for all the reasons stated and reiterated and never responded to - we will not be forced into agreement on this policy - we disagree with it - let’s agree to disagree
and move on with life - and the status quo (the current soft landing)</div>
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From: Noah <noah@neo.co.tz><br>
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 8:24 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Softlanding-Bis decision appeal<br>
To: Frank Habicht <geier@geier.ne.tz><br>
Cc: rpd List <rpd@afrinic.net><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 3 Jan 2018 16:00, "Frank Habicht" <<a href="mailto:geier@geier.ne.tz">geier@geier.ne.tz</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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On 1/3/2018 3:45 PM, Noah wrote:<br>
> Hi Frank,<br>
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> I believe your points raised above were addressed and repeated many<br>
> times and archives are there, but just to retariate that;<br>
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> 1. The global community accepted in 2009 a softlanding policy which<br>
> granted AFRINIC just like other regions this last /8.<br>
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Yes.<br>
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> 2. AFRINIC would not have had that last /8 if the normal allocation<br>
> rules had continued to the end on IANA pool (need based and 1st come,<br>
> 1st serve)<br>
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> 3. The last /8 which is a subject of the current softlanding policy and<br>
> all the proposals we've seen to amend it was meant for specific<br>
> purposes. Please<br>
> read <a rel="noreferrer" href="https://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/current/135-afpub-2009-v4-001" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/<wbr>en/library/policies/current/<wbr>135-afpub-2009-v4-001</a><br>
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> <<a rel="noreferrer" href="https://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/current/135-afpub-2009-v4-001" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/en/<wbr>library/policies/current/135-<wbr>afpub-2009-v4-001</a>><br>
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> 4. Nobody, not even AFRINIC is locking useful numbering resources as<br>
> allocations will continue as usual, folks are encouraged to adopt IPv6<br>
> and provision is made for resource members to facilitate the transition.<br>
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As per the softlanding policy already in place.<br>
And the need to change to more stringent criteria ... ?<br>
... is in my opinion not something we have a consensus about.<br>
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<div dir="auto">Ok</div>
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I believe if you say there is a consensus and I say there is no<br>
consensus, then the conclusion is that there is no consensus between us,<br>
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<div dir="auto">IMHO, the co-chairs are best placed to determine consensus vs no consensus.</div>
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Would you agree to these statements?<br>
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<div dir="auto">If its just between me and you... we can agree to disagree and that is normal.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Noah</div>
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