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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/12/2017 18:05, caleb olumuyiwa
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<div dir="auto">Many thanks Nishal for last email. You have
written well.
<div dir="auto">I haven't seen any specific reason why Andrew
will predetermine what report should or not be sent by the
Co-chairs to the Board. The procedure posted earlier by Omo
was clear enough. With due respect, I personally think the
attacks the Co-chairs to assume there is no rough consensus
on this policy by raising dust and accussing them before a
procedural report is sent amounts to bullying.</div>
<div dir="auto">Additionally, if most members of the community
aren'traising issues with the last call with there silence, it
probably suggest the community is favouring the outcome of
this policy. Like the adage goes... "Silence means consent".
If you have issues with it, deal with the appeal committee
that has been set up for arbitration and conflict resolution.
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I think you may have this wrong. There have been quite a few letters
of dissent against the policy - much more than usual. These have
come across as letters from a portion of the community that usually
stays quiet - which would indicate to me that the silent majority
are actually against this policy.<br>
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I've also noticed that a few people who support the policy were not
aware that there is already a soft landing policy in place, albeit,
slightly different.<br>
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<div dir="auto">AFRINIC PDP is bigger than one individual. We
have much to gain from respecting laid down procedure.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Like I always note, we are young folks that has
much to learn from the community. Kindly do not compound the
learning process.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Caleb Ogundele</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 15, 2017 11:49 AM, "Nishal
Goburdhan" <<a href="mailto:nishal@controlfreak.co.za"
moz-do-not-send="true">nishal@controlfreak.co.za</a>>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 15 Dec
2017, at 0:24, Andrew Alston wrote:<br>
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Correct Owen - the only time the board gets a report is to
state that a policy has passed last call and consensus has
been reached and they should ratify.<br>
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is there something in the PDP that specifically prevents the
co-chairs from sending a report to the board if there is no
consensus?<br>
according to <a
href="https://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/pdwg"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.afrinic.net/en/com<wbr>munity/policy-development/pdwg</a>
one of the duties of the co-chairs is:<br>
“* Sending a report of the outcomes of policy discussions at
public policy meetings to the Board of Directors.”<br>
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i read that as :<br>
* this is what was discussed<br>
* this is the outcome (whichever way it goes)<br>
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so, i don’t agree with the implication in this thread, that
there is a pre-determined outcome. all sami’s mail said
was: “.. the Co-chairs will send the report to the board”.
which i find to be appropriate. i’m willing to bet, that
the co-chairs fully intend to write a short report,
whichever way their determination of consensus goes (ie.
either yay or nay to the proposal), and *that* is what sami
meant.<br>
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—n.<br>
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