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<div style="direction:ltr">No aspertions cast - I stated “in the event that” - not that the event would occur :) I was careful to add that.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:35:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew Alston<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Last Call Announcement - IPv4 Soft Landing - bis (AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07)</font>
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<div>I prefer for the moment to give the co-chairs the benefit of the doubt and assume that they were simply careless in their phrasing.
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<div class="" style="direction:ltr">Correct Owen - the only time the board gets a report is to state that a policy has passed last call and consensus has been reached and they should ratify.</div>
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<div class="" style="direction:ltr">I would argue though that in the event of this policy now magically finding last call consensus despite the opposition - the above email clearly demonstrates that the outcome was pre determined and opposition be damned -
which again is clear grounds for yet another appeal - and failing that - great grounds for litigation.</div>
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<b class="">Sent:</b> Thursday, December 14, 2017 3:08:52 PM<br class="">
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<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Last Call Announcement - IPv4 Soft Landing - bis (AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07)</font>
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<span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT620_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT621_com_zimbra_date">Dec. 16</span></span>, 2017) then the Co-chairs will send the report to the board.<br class="">
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<div class="" style="line-height:1.38; margin:0px; text-align:justify"><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">Dear PDWG Community,</span></div>
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<div class="" style="line-height:1.38; margin:0px; text-align:justify"><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">We thank you for
your interaction following the AFRINIC-27 meetings in Lagos, Nigeria although it would be nicer to see more of constructive commentary than personal attacks.</span></div>
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<div class="" style="line-height:1.38; margin:0px; text-align:justify"><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">Following the AFRINIC
Policy Development Process as outlined in Article 3.0 of </span><a style="text-decoration:none" href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/1829-afrinic-consolidated-policy-manual" class="" target="_blank"><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#1155cc; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:underline; vertical-align:baseline">http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/1829-afrinic-consolidated-policy-manual</span></a><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">
, the proposal IPv4 Soft Landing Bis was moved to Last Call period for further input from the community before being passed on for ratification by the AFRINIC board or returned to the mailing list.
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added for the purpose of explanation. </span></div>
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<span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:bold; font-style:italic; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">3.4.2 Public Policy Meeting</span></h4>
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is placed on the agenda of an open public policy meeting. The agenda of the meeting shall be announced on the Resource Policy Discussion mailing list at least two weeks prior to the meeting. No change can be made to a draft policy within one week of the meeting.
This is so that a stable version of the draft policy can be considered at the meeting. *</span><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:bold; font-style:italic; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">The
Chair(s) determine(s) whether rough consensus has been achieved during the Public Policy Meeting.*</span></div>
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the draft policy is initiated by the Working Group Chair(s) by sending an announcement to the Resource Policy Discussion mailing list. The Last Call period shall be at least two weeks. *</span><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:bold; font-style:italic; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">The
Working Group Chair(s) shall evaluate the feedback received during the Public Policy Meeting during this period and decide whether consensus has been achieved.*</span></div>
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<span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:bold; font-style:italic; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">3.4.4 Approval</span></h4>
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Chair(s) shall recommend the draft policy to the AFRINIC Board of Directors for approval if it has the consensus of the Policy Development Working Group.*</span><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:italic; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">
The recommendation shall include a report of the discussions of the draft policy and feedback from the Last Call. The draft policy shall be ratified by the AFRINIC Board of Directors.</span></div>
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discussed at Public Policy Meeting: </span><a style="text-decoration:none" href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2017/007658.html" class="" target="_blank"><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#1155cc; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:underline; vertical-align:baseline">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2017/007658.html</span></a><br class="">
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<div class="" style="line-height:1.38; margin:0px"><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">The proposal draft discussed at the
meeting was published on this mailing list on October 1, 2017. Over an 8-week period, that document received one comment (and a +1) stating that the IPv6 reserve be restricted only to new members.</span></div>
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<div class="" style="line-height:1.38; margin:0px"><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">We duly observed previous comments from
those that oppose soft landing and would rather remove restrictions. This concern is addressed by the fact that the IP addresses under discussion were in fact handed to AFRINIC in 2011 under a global policy which equally redistributed the remaining IPv4 pool
amongst RIRs (effectively replacing the “on-demand” policy - despite the fact that other RIRs may have had greater need and demand at that time). Refer to Section 3 (Rationale) of
</span><a style="text-decoration:none" href="http://www.afrinic.net/library/135-global-policy-for-the-allocation-of-the-remaining-ipv4-address-space" class="" target="_blank"><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#1155cc; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:underline; vertical-align:baseline">http://www.afrinic.net/library/135-global-policy-for-the-allocation-of-the-remaining-ipv4-address-space</span></a><br class="">
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<div class="" style="line-height:1.38; margin:0px"><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">While minutes of the meeting are yet
to be published, the community may observe the proceedings of the session at </span>
<a style="text-decoration:none" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-EIsBtenw0" class="" target="_blank"><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; color:#1155cc; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:underline; vertical-align:baseline">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-EIsBtenw0</span></a><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">
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<div class="" style="line-height:1.38; margin:0px"><span class="" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial; background-color:transparent; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; vertical-align:baseline">The policy proposal IPv4 Soft-Landing
Bis remains in last call period as earlier announced.</span></div>
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<b class="">To: </b>"rpd" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Sent: </b>Friday, December 1, 2017 12:17:26 PM<br class="">
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Following discussions by the PDWG community at AFRINIC-27 during the Public Policy Meeting held on 30 November 2017 in Lagos, the following policy proposal has been moved to “Last Call”, starting today 01 December 2017.<br class="">
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IPv4 Soft Landing - bis (AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT07) - moves to last call with the following minor modifications:<br class="">
Reword 5.4.7.1 to remove specific reference to “XLAT translators”<br class="">
Add “including IDN ccTLDs” to 5.4.7.5.3<br class="">
Current Version: <a href="https://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2247-ipv4-soft-landing-bis-" class="">
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