<div dir="ltr">+1 Mike</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Mike Silber <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com" target="_blank">silber.mike@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jackson<br>
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Like Andrew or loath him - I regard your comments below as an ad hominem attack and unacceptable in the context of the policy development process.<br>
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I would urge you to withdraw these remarks and engage on the substance.<br>
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I note your very dismissive response to the objections as irrelevant and your refusal to actually engage on the substance. You may consider the objections so trivial as to not warrant a response - however in the absence of real responses, I don’t see how the proposal can be moved into final call.<br>
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On the grounds of procedural irregularity alone, I object to this policy. I reserve my right to respond on the substance should the need arise.<br>
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Mike<br>
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> On 1 Dec 2017, at 11:17, Jackson Muthili <<a href="mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com">jacksonmuthi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Your objections as stated before are iffy, out-of context, off-topic<br>
> and irrelevant to the spirit and principle behind soft landing.<br>
><br>
> The community will move forward and will not entertain ill intentioned<br>
> and malicious people hijacking a drive to protect a continent's<br>
> resource from pillaging.<br>
><br>
> Go back and read the original proposal behind which the global<br>
> redistribution of the last 5 /8s to each individual RIR was premised,<br>
> and the actual problem statement in Soft Landing BIs which aligns<br>
> exactly with that original policy.<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.afrinic.net/library/policies/135-afpub-2009-v4-001" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.afrinic.net/<wbr>library/policies/135-afpub-<wbr>2009-v4-001</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> /////////////////////////////<br>
> The IANA pool of allocation units of IPv4 addresses (/8s) is<br>
> decreasing rapidly; and to continue applying a global coordinated<br>
> policy for distribution of the last piece(s) of each RIR's unallocated<br>
> address block does not match the reality of the situation in each RIR<br>
> region. Issues each RIR region will face during the exhaustion period<br>
> vary by region as the level of development of IPv4 and IPv6 are widely<br>
> different. As a result, applying a global coordinated policy may<br>
> adequately address issues in a certain region while it could not be<br>
> work for the others.<br>
><br>
> For example, in a region where late comers desperately need even small<br>
> blocks of IPv4 addresses to access to the IPv4 Internet, a policy that<br>
> defines the target of allocations/assignments of IPv4 address space to<br>
> the late comers would be appropriate in such region. This would allow<br>
> availability of IPv4 address space for such requirements for more<br>
> years.<br>
><br>
> Another example comes from difference in IPv6 deployment rate. For a<br>
> region where IPv6 deployment rate is low, measures may be necessary to<br>
> prolong IPv4 address life for the existing business as well as for new<br>
> businesses until networks are IPv6 ready. Some regions may have strong<br>
> needs to secure IPv4 address space for translators.<br>
><br>
> A globally coordinated policy which addresses all issues listed above<br>
> (and/or others) to meet the needs for all RIR regions may result in<br>
> not solving issues in any of the regions. So a new global policy<br>
> proposal , a revised version of policy proposals "AFPUB-2007-v4-001"<br>
> and "AFPUB-2007-v4-002", is proposed to replace the current "on<br>
> demand" policy for allocating of the remaining IPv4 address space to<br>
> RIRs.<br>
> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\<br>
><br>
><br>
> You and your so-called friends MUST stop wasting the community's time.<br>
><br>
> Africa will move forward irrespective. Neocolonialism is so last century.<br>
><br>
> J<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Andrew Alston<br>
> <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Hi All,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Considering the decision to take the soft-landing bis policy into last call<br>
>> yesterday – the following individuals wish to state that we are officially<br>
>> appealing the decision by the co-chairs in this regard:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Ben Maddison<br>
>><br>
>> Andrew Alston<br>
>><br>
>> Mark Elkins<br>
>><br>
>> Christopher Mwangi<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Over the last 2 years there have been sustained and unaddressed objections<br>
>> to this policy. There have been multiple requests by this community to<br>
>> withdraw this policy. There was a statement by the authors in Mauritius<br>
>> that the policy would be withdrawn that was reneged. The list archives<br>
>> clearly show that there was – and remains opposition to this policy. The<br>
>> rules of the PDP are clear – consensus is not based on what is said at the<br>
>> floor of the meeting alone, but is derived from the sum total of comments<br>
>> and objections both on the floor and the lists – and includes any objections<br>
>> that are sustained and unaddressed.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> While we are happy to engage with the chairs on this issue in the public<br>
>> forum that is this list – we also see little hope of resolution without<br>
>> going to the formal appeal committee should the chairs not decide to reverse<br>
>> their decision, which we believe was taken in error.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> We also welcome any other individuals who wish to add their names to this<br>
>> appeal – and note that individuals wishing to do so, by the appeal process,<br>
>> are free to join the appeal process irrespective of their comments or lack<br>
>> of comments on the policy to date – since the appeal surrounds procedural<br>
>> error – rather than the content of the specific policy itself.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Further emails will follow in due course detailing the objections raised on<br>
>> the list and the floor of previous meetings that have never been addressed,<br>
>> and we will clearly demonstrate the error that was made in the consensus<br>
>> declaration.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Further to this – any of the appellants reserve the right to continue to<br>
>> contribute during the last call for the duration of the appeal and may<br>
>> continue to state their objections during the last call – so that in the<br>
>> event of this appeal failing – and consensus in last call being declared –<br>
>> the ground work is laid for a second appeal.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Yours Sincerely<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Andrew Alston<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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