<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Dear Eddy, </div><div dir="auto">Thanks for expressing your concerns about our Policy Development work.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">RPD is a forum for INRs management discussions and related policies elaboration. The policy work follows a process defined by the PDP and is conducted through a Working Group.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> It requires discussions, right to express opinions, right to agree or disagree, but also the obligations to respect opinions, to contribute towards progress and closure of discussions and works.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Dysfunctional Working Group, Lack of moderation, etc.., all imputable to the lack of clarity of the current PDP, WG operations rules that have led to an effort to revive the PDP.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> PDP-BIS proposal[1] is being discussed and we hope wisdom and sense of responsibilities will prevail to adopt a new PDP and WG operations practices which improve our works here and stop the unnecessary confrontations and escalations.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">[1] <a href="https://afrinic.net/fr/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2083-afrinic-policy-development-process-bis">https://afrinic.net/fr/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2083-afrinic-policy-development-process-bis</a></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 12 août 2017 10:05, "Eddy Kayihura" <<a href="mailto:ekayihura@gmail.com">ekayihura@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hi All,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have to admit it is very sad to see where we have reached at as a community.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have friends from both sides that seems to be at war and I have failed to understand what is at stake. Maybe I am not looking hard enough or have not searched deep enough.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In a family, when there is conflict and people still do want to keep the family fabric alive, people sit down and discuss matters sometimes with neutral wise men (and women in our generation).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Do you think there is still a small chance for our community to stay united? We don't need to agree on all but should keep the interests of the community at heart.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">These debates have become so toxic that it is hard to focus on what's important. With this bottom up process we don't distribute red cards and everyone can add his sauce on the mix (even me with no understanding on the discussed topic :-)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I don't think we are a community that can evolve with consensus any more since we have allowed these diverging opinions and camps to divide us so much. It is no longer what it used to be: "a group of geeks working together for the good of the Internet as well as the continent."</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My humble proposal is to zoom out a bit and seat at a virtual round table with the intention to dilute each sides toxic glass. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Not sure how this would work but hope the wise men and women can know how to moderate such debate.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Hoping we still have those wise persons in this community...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My 2 cents...</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 11, 2017 12:20 PM, "Noah" <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 Aug 2017 5:23 a.m., "Owen DeLong" <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_7446291481138674816m_8691411042168520296m_-6704798927156440086m_-4711009337471244686m_7527250603538082858quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I understand why you think these are better, but I will agree to disagree.</div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Owen,</div><div dir="auto"><br><span style="font-family:sans-serif">The board asked for suggestions and I have shared different options we can explore and I didnt expect you personally to agree with these suggestions even a bit considering your openly biased view point ref: the matter.</span><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_7446291481138674816m_8691411042168520296m_-6704798927156440086m_-4711009337471244686m_7527250603538082858quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>I think any of those constructs would result in factional distrust of the outcome of the process.</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Can you please elaborate fully this factional distrust you assume. Dont you think you contribute to it?</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Cheers,</span></div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto">Noah</div></div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br></div></div></div>
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