<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Eddy and Ademole +<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">∞</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><br>On 12 Aug 2017, at 12:58, Ademola Osindero <<a href="mailto:ademola@ng.lopworks.com">ademola@ng.lopworks.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">Dear All,</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">I very much share Eddy’s sympathy on the deteriorated state of this collaboration. We cannot pretend all is fine and expect to move further with any proposal. Neither can we venture down the lane of exploring sanctions. The community is meant to be an egalitarian society and appointed leaders are only chosen to help steer the wheel of affairs.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">Like in all conflicts, if we allow this enmity to continue, it will be total chaos for Afrinic. I do second the option of calling for an emergency resolution meeting to hold either virtually or at a physical location. Let us all work together to douse the growing tension. More so, this community has grown over the years with several people coming on board. We have to learn to listen to divergent views.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div> <br> <div id="bloop_sign_1502534999855915008" class="bloop_sign"><div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px">-- <br><span style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">Regards,</span><br class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">Ademola Osindero</span><br class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal"><br class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">CEO/Consulting Director</span><br class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">Lopworks Limited</span><br class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">29 Ago Palace Way,</span><br class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">Okota, Isolo,</span><br class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">Lagos, Nigeria</span><br class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal"><br class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal"><a href="tel://Mob: +234 8058097820" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">Mob: +234 8058097820</a><span style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">, </span><font face="helvetica Neue, helvetica"><span style="line-height:normal"><a href="tel://+234">+234</a></span></font><a href="tel://+234 8091291780" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal"> 8091291780</a><br class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal"><a href="tel://Tel: +234 1 3422633" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">Tel: +234 1 3422633</a><br class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">Email: </span><a href="mailto:ademola@ng.lopworks.com" class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">ademola@ng.lopworks.com</a><br class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">Web: </span><a href="http://www.lopworks.com/" class="" style="font-family:'helvetica Neue',helvetica;line-height:normal">http://www.lopworks.com</a></div></div> <br><p class="airmail_on">On 12 August 2017 at 11:05:28, Eddy Kayihura (<a href="mailto:ekayihura@gmail.com">ekayihura@gmail.com</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>
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<div dir="auto">Hi All,
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<div dir="auto">I have to admit it is very sad to see where we have
reached at as a community.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I have friends from both sides that seems to be at
war and I have failed to understand what is at stake. Maybe I am
not looking hard enough or have not searched deep enough.</div>
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<div dir="auto">In a family, when there is conflict and people
still do want to keep the family fabric alive, people sit down and
discuss matters sometimes with neutral wise men (and women in our
generation).</div>
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<div dir="auto">Do you think there is still a small chance for our
community to stay united? We don't need to agree on all but should
keep the interests of the community at heart.</div>
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<div dir="auto">These debates have become so toxic that it is hard
to focus on what's important. With this bottom up process we don't
distribute red cards and everyone can add his sauce on the mix
(even me with no understanding on the discussed topic :-)</div>
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<div dir="auto">I don't think we are a community that can evolve
with consensus any more since we have allowed these diverging
opinions and camps to divide us so much. It is no longer what it
used to be: "a group of geeks working together for the good of the
Internet as well as the continent."</div>
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<div dir="auto">My humble proposal is to zoom out a bit and seat at
a virtual round table with the intention to dilute each sides toxic
glass. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Not sure how this would work but hope the wise men
and women can know how to moderate such debate.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Hoping we still have those wise persons in this
community...</div>
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<div dir="auto">My 2 cents...</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 11, 2017 12:20 PM, "Noah"
<<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz">noah@neo.co.tz</a>>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 11 Aug 2017 5:23 a.m., "Owen DeLong"
<<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">I understand why you think these
are better, but I will agree to disagree.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Owen,</div>
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<span style="font-family:sans-serif">The board asked for
suggestions and I have shared different options we can explore and
I didnt expect you personally to agree with these suggestions even
a bit considering your openly biased view point ref: the
matter.</span><br></div>
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<div>I think any of those constructs would result in factional
distrust of the outcome of the process.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Can you please elaborate fully this
factional distrust you assume. Dont you think you contribute to
it?</span><br></div>
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<div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Cheers,</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto">Noah</div>
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