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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">And another factual inaccuracy – I did not know it was open until Sander told me about it – nor did I ever subscribe to it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Please – get your facts straight before throwing out accusations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Secondly – how was he supposed to know it was a private list when he subscribed to it? Instead – when he found out – he informed myself and others
of the fact that it was open – and it got fixed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Jackson Muthili [mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 August 2017 10:34<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey@hotmail.com>; Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl>; Sunday Folayan <sfolayan@gmail.com>; Gert Döring <gert@space.net>; rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <rpd@afrinic.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Appeal Committee Terms of Reference (Version 1)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Andrew Alston<br>
<<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Jackson,<br>
><br>
> I’m not going to go back into this issue – surfice to say – the list was<br>
> publicly listed as an open subscription list on a page that could be found<br>
> on google – you click on it – you hit subscribe – it subscribes you. Guess<br>
> what – if I see a public mailing list that lets me hit subscribe and<br>
> subscribes me – that is locatable on google – and that list looks<br>
> interesting – then yeah – I see no problem subscribing to it.<br>
><br>
> People who claim said list was hacked are a little confused – it’s the<br>
> equivalent of saying that because someone googles and finds the RPD list and<br>
> hits subscribe that they hacked into the RPD list. There was ZERO notice<br>
> that that list was closed, that it was limited access, or anything else.<br>
<br>
Thank you for this.<br>
<br>
It was a private list and you (a sitting Board) and Sander (a sitting<br>
RIPE Chair) discovered the list was open by accident.<br>
<br>
A person of good integrity could have privately asked AfriNIC to<br>
adjust configuration of that list in order to protect the institution<br>
from embarrassment, rather than intentionally embarrass the<br>
institution by making all those findings public.<br>
<br>
J<br>
<br>
> Last I heard – to hack into something – you had to do more than click on a<br>
> bunch of publicly accessible links.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Andrew<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> From: Jackson Muthili [<a href="mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com">mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: 04 August 2017 09:31<br>
> To: Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br>
> Cc: Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com">madomey@hotmail.com</a>>; Sander Steffann<br>
> <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl">sander@steffann.nl</a>>; Sunday Folayan <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@gmail.com">sfolayan@gmail.com</a>>; Gert Döring<br>
> <<a href="mailto:gert@space.net">gert@space.net</a>>; rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Appeal Committee Terms of Reference (Version 1)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Andrew Alston<br>
> <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Sorry, but right now, I am now appealing to someone to please enforce the<br>
>> code of conduct.<br>
>><br>
>> There is absolutely no call – nor right – to tell individuals who are<br>
>> welcome and not welcome in the context of the RPD list that is an open<br>
>> forum<br>
>> to discuss policy and other issues.<br>
><br>
> Stop being ridiculous.<br>
><br>
> The context of Markus message pertains to Sander's offer of serving on<br>
> appeal committee.<br>
><br>
> You of all should have been banned on this list long ago for your<br>
> repeated and sustained blatant attacks on other people here.<br>
><br>
> By the way Andrew are you actually defending his action of having<br>
> accessed the private information of AfriNIC and made it public?<br>
><br>
> J<br>
><br>
>> This is a blatant attack on the co-chair of another RIR, and I appeal to<br>
>> the<br>
>> co-chairs to act decisively against this behaviour and do something about<br>
>> it.<br>
>><br>
>> Andrew<br>
>><br>
>> From: Marcus K. G. Adomey [<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com">mailto:madomey@hotmail.com</a>]<br>
>> Sent: 04 August 2017 01:25<br>
>> To: Jackson Muthili <<a href="mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com">jacksonmuthi@gmail.com</a>>; Sander Steffann<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl">sander@steffann.nl</a>><br>
>> Cc: Sunday Folayan <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@gmail.com">sfolayan@gmail.com</a>>; Gert Döring <<a href="mailto:gert@space.net">gert@space.net</a>>; rpd<br>
>>>> AfriNIC Resource Policy <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [rpd] Appeal Committee Terms of Reference (Version 1)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Dear Jackson,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thursday, July 20, 2017, Sander Steffann <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl">sander@steffann.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> If during the random selection for seat 3 and 4 my names comes up then I<br>
>>> will happily accept.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Whether the CEO has put to rest the issue of hacking to rest or not, still<br>
>> Sander has no moral authority to be part of any committee within the<br>
>> African<br>
>> Internet community.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> In fact, it is laughable that Sander has even dreamt for being part of an<br>
>> appeal committee in the community of people he described as “Sheep”.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Doesn’t he know that birds with same feathers flock together? He should<br>
>> have<br>
>> reclused himself from our activities. “Sheep” would mind their own<br>
>> business<br>
>> because we don’t want him to be a “sheep” and as the popular expression<br>
>> says<br>
>> remind us that “show me your friend, I will tell you who you are”.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> He is not welcome!!!!<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Cheers<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Marcus<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ________________________________<br>
>><br>
>> From: Jackson Muthili <<a href="mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com">jacksonmuthi@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:43:25 AM<br>
>> To: Sander Steffann<br>
>> Cc: Sunday Folayan; Gert Döring; rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy<br>
>> Subject: Re: [rpd] Appeal Committee Terms of Reference (Version 1)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thursday, July 20, 2017, Sander Steffann <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl">sander@steffann.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Sunday,<br>
>><br>
>>> The AFRINIC Board of Directors intends to establish an Appeal Committee<br>
>>> to<br>
>>> give effect to the requirements in section 3.5 of the Consolidated Policy<br>
>>> Manual (that is, the Conflict resolution portion of the Policy<br>
>>> Development<br>
>>> Process).<br>
>>><br>
>>> The Appeal Committee Terms of Reference (version 1) is published at<br>
>>> <a href="https://afrinic.net/en/community/working-groups/policy-appeal">https://afrinic.net/en/community/working-groups/policy-appeal</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> The Board calls for comments on the Terms of Reference for a 30 day<br>
>>> period, ending on 19 August 2017. Comments may be sent to the RPD mailing<br>
>>> list <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>.<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you and the rest of the board for obviously putting a lot of thought<br>
>> and work into this. The result looks very good. As Owen pointed out there<br>
>> are always small improvements possible, but I think the board deserves<br>
>> this<br>
>> community's compliments for doing a good job :)<br>
>><br>
>> If during the random selection for seat 3 and 4 my names comes up then I<br>
>> will happily accept.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Your name rings a bell many years when AfriNIC nomcom was hacked you were<br>
>> among this group which accessed non privileged information.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> If it is the case your moral stand in our community is questionable. I may<br>
>> be wrong please remind me.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> J<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> Sander<o:p></o:p></p>
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