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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/07/2017 16:43, abel ELITCHA
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<div dir="ltr">David,
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-07-24 10:08 GMT+00:00 David
Hilario <span dir="ltr"><<a
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I think there is a misunderstanding from your side.<br>
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On 24 July 2017 at 12:41, Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a
href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">madomey@hotmail.com</a>>
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> Dear David,<br>
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> I find your email rather strange if you can admit to
selling/trading of IP<br>
> Addresses.<br>
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> At the current state of affairs, LIRs are not allowed
to sell IP Addresses<br>
> to their customers through sub-allocations and
assignments.<br>
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Isn't the core purpose of an IR to further distribute the
address space?<br>
Whether you charge for the service or not is entirely up
to you as LIR,<br>
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<div>Charging for service which encompasses the IPs is fine,
but charging for the IPs as service or comodity is not
allowed<br>
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Where does it say that?<br>
So - if the ISP includes a /29 in the monthly rental of a service
but the customer asks for, needs and can justify a /26 of address
space, the ISP can't charge him extra for it?<br>
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What about a PtP tunnel system, where the customer buys a tunnel
service that needs four IPv4 addresses? I'd see that as a legitimate
business.<br>
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> You're concerned by the impact of the policy on other
members and not on<br>
> your own LIR's account? Fantastic!!!<br>
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Not so much on our own, no, but the policy proposal as
written and if<br>
applied accordingly to how it is written, will results in
the<br>
de-registration of live network all over the membership of
AFRINIC,<br>
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<div>Live networks using the numbers in compliance will
have no issues. Those not in compliance will be giving
chance to seek compliance.</div>
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<div>De -registration is a LAST ressort action (not
desirable). Even in this case, providers and users will
have enough time to ensure business continuity.</div>
<div>BTW, can you suggest how do you see it written to
match your "aspirations" please?</div>
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