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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mr Folayan, Chair of the board of AfriNIC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I am sitting here almost to stunned to even type this email.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The position taken by the board in this regard, as expressed in your email below, quite frankly beggars belief. The fact that a
board, who in large part, drafted a special resolution that attempted to deal with conflict of interest, could take a position like this – where is the consistency?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">What you are effectively saying in this email is that – when a member of the community decides that the judgement of the co-chairs
must be questioned – they must then – rely on the judgement of those same co-chairs – to allow an appeal against their own bad judgement…. If the flaws in that logic train are not obvious – then I don’t know what is.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This effectively strips the community of any credible means of appeal – it makes a mockery out of any form of governance – it exposes
a fundamental lack of understanding of conflict of interest – and while I thought there was not much that could truly shock me – this email has left me stunned.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Please – I appeal to you – back down from this position and restore a little credibility to this process, and to yourselves – because
wow… just wow…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In one email – you have managed to confirm and solidify every thought I had about the business risks posed by this organisation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 13 July 2017 08:40<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <board@afrinic.net>; rpd List <rpd@afrinic.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [rpd] BOARD Response: Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Dear Mr Alston,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thank you very much for requesting the setup of an appeal committee.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>The Board does not see the need to keep a standing committee to handle appeals arising from Co-Chairs' decision on the PDWG.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>If indeed there is the need to setup such a committee, the request will come from the co-chairs, who will declare that they were not able to reach an agreement with the aggrieved party, in accordance with Section 3.5 of the CPM.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>The interpretation of the Board is that two weeks begins from the date the Co-Chairs inform the Board that they are not able to reach an agreement with the aggrieved party. The Board will setup a committee within one week, leaving a clear one week for the
party to file the appeal.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thanks and Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Sunday.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/07/2017 13:49, Sunday Folayan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Dear Mr Alston,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I acknowledge your request.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>The Board will get back to you on this. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Kind Regards ...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Sunday.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Let me put this another way - and I formally request that the board seek legal opinion on this and provide this community feedback - in the event of a clear and substantiated legal risk to the company - that has been officially stated by
legal council - existing, and a director continuing to advocate for the same - does this not constitute a breach of section 143.c and potentially 143.d of the Mauritian companies act.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">While in the past we have all agreed that board members have the right to partake in the PDP - something I fully and wholeheartedly support - and while I think it is prudent to assume that legal risk raised must be clearly substantiated
before a breach of fiduciary duty can occur, I would like legal view on where this line is - and I would like the board to provide this feedback to the community in official capacity<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> David Hilario
<a href="mailto:d.hilario@laruscloudservice.net"><d.hilario@laruscloudservice.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 12, 2017 1:34:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bope Domilongo Christian<br>
<b>Cc:</b> rpd List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Christian,<br>
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On 12 July 2017 at 12:01, Bope Domilongo Christian<br>
<a href="mailto:christianbope@gmail.com"><christianbope@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
> [Speaking on my own capacity]<br>
><br>
<br>
I understand this to mean the "board hat" has been removed.<br>
<br>
> I have been in support of this review policy proposal since its inception<br>
> and have followed carefully the progression.<br>
> My support counted in those who made the policy proposal enter the last<br>
> call.<br>
><br>
> I expect its adoption as this region really needs such a POLICY specifically<br>
> in post IPV4 transition and for the sake of transparency and accountability<br>
> of the management of public resources.<br>
><br>
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<br>
When it will be time for you to ratify the policy, with the "board<br>
hat" back on, how can you possibly then ratify a policy that has a<br>
direct negative feedback from the AFRINIC ltd's legal advisor from the<br>
company you then represent?<br>
<br>
A policy that potentially puts the company at risks according to the<br>
legal advisor's own report.<br>
Doesn't that puts you as a board of directors member, who is expected<br>
to work in the best interest of the organisation "AFRINIC Ltd" in a<br>
tough position to justify even considering passing such a policy, with<br>
hat on or not.<br>
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> With Best Regards,<br>
> Christian D. Bope<br>
><br>
> On 12 July 2017 at 16:30, Noah <a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz"><noah@neo.co.tz></a> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 12 Jul 2017 9:47 a.m., "Bill Woodcock" <a href="mailto:woody@pch.net"><woody@pch.net></a> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 18 Against:<br>
>> <a href="mailto:chenghn@chinaccsi.com">"chenghn@chinaccsi.com"</a> <a href="mailto:chenghn@chinaccsi.com">
<chenghn@chinaccsi.com></a><br>
>> Andrew Alston <a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com"><Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com></a><br>
>> Bastein Li <a href="mailto:bastienlee@qq.com"><bastienlee@qq.com></a><br>
>> Christopher Mwangi <a href="mailto:christopher.mwangi@liquidtelecom.com"><christopher.mwangi@liquidtelecom.com></a><br>
>> David Hilario <a href="mailto:d.hilario@laruscloudservice.net"><d.hilario@laruscloudservice.net></a><br>
>> Derrick Harrison <a href="mailto:derrick.harrison@sonictelecoms.co.za"><derrick.harrison@sonictelecoms.co.za></a><br>
>> Douglas Onyango <a href="mailto:ondouglas@gmail.com"><ondouglas@gmail.com></a><br>
>> Kris Seeburn <a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com"><seeburn.k@gmail.com></a><br>
>> Lu Heng <a href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com"><h.lu@anytimechinese.com></a><br>
>> Mark Elkins <a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za"><mje@posix.co.za></a><br>
>> Mark Tinka <a href="mailto:mark.tinka@seacom.mu"><mark.tinka@seacom.mu></a><br>
>> McTim <a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com"><dogwallah@gmail.com></a><br>
>> Mike Silber <a href="mailto:silber.mike@gmail.com"><silber.mike@gmail.com></a><br>
>> Nishal Goburdhan <a href="mailto:nishal@controlfreak.co.za"><nishal@controlfreak.co.za></a><br>
>> Noah <a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz"><noah@neo.co.tz></a><br>
>> S Moonesamy <a href="mailto:sm+afrinic@elandsys.com"><sm+afrinic@elandsys.com></a><br>
>> Saul Stein <a href="mailto:saul@enetworks.co.za"><saul@enetworks.co.za></a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Hi Bill<br>
>><br>
>> on the contrary, I actually support the policy just like other folks which<br>
>> is why it reached the last call. This policy would enable AFRINIC just like<br>
>> ARIN, RIPE NCC and other RIR to effect compliance.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> So, the next question might be whether this is a winner-take-all vote, or<br>
>> an assessment of whether a clear consensus exists.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> We continue to trust the co-chairs who have guided us to this stage.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers<br>
>> Noah<br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
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https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
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<pre>Phone: +234 802 291 2202, +234 816 866 7523<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Email: <a href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com.ng">sfolayan@skannet.com.ng</a>, <a href="mailto:sfolayan@gmail.com">sfolayan@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Phone: +234 802 291 2202, +234 816 866 7523<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Email: <a href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com.ng">sfolayan@skannet.com.ng</a>, <a href="mailto:sfolayan@gmail.com">sfolayan@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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