<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div><br></div><div><br>On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:06, Mike Burns <<a href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com">mike@iptrading.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="a"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3"><o:p> </o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The fact that other RIR’s DO permit members from other regions to inbound transfer space means that there is choice – and the members of AFRINIC are being held to ransom through the lack of a transfer policy</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">False. With the exception of RIPE the other RIRs also follow the territorial exclusivity provisions of ICP-2<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I'll leave your other points to those who care to comment on them. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Owen<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hi Owen,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Maybe I am missing something, but I have brokered deals from RIPE to ARIN and from RIPE to APNIC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">And from ARIN to RIPE and ARIN to APNIC. And from APNIC to RIPE and from APNIC to ARIN.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">LACNIC only allows intra-regional transfers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">They all work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><br><div>Sure... but ARIN and APNIC don't allow an inbound transfer to an out-of-region recipient. If you are an ISP operating exclusively in Africa, you can't transfer space into ARIN or APNIC or be a transfer recipient of any kind in those RIRs. You have to have some amount of operations in region to qualify as a transfer recipient there. </div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div></body></html>