<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Mike Burns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com" target="_blank">mike@iptrading.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-8234728985970457628m_-7874107374940702130WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hi Noah,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">It is understandable that there is confusion, but yes, to be crystal clear, ARIN does not really care whether the resources are utilized and they will not revoke even if none of them are used at all. I am an ARIN member with an allocation, and I can put it on the shelf forever, unused, so long as I pay my dues.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Can we at least get serious. Why would ARIN allocate a member resources which an entity would put in some shelf unused just because that entity pays its membership dues. So for ARIN its about paying, this is what you are saying. </div><div><br></div><div>So why would ARIN as an RIR then bother itself with the below as per <a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#twelve">https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#twelve</a>.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px">ARIN may conduct such reviews:</span><ol style="margin:0.25em;padding:0px 0px 0px 20px;border:0px;font-size:12px;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;list-style-position:initial;line-height:1.5em;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><li style="margin:0.25em 0px 0px;padding:0px;border:0px;background:transparent;list-style-type:lower-alpha;line-height:1.5em">when any new resource is requested,</li><li style="margin:0.25em 0px 0px;padding:0px;border:0px;background:transparent;list-style-type:lower-alpha;line-height:1.5em">whenever ARIN has reason to believe that the resources were originally obtained fraudulently or in contravention of existing policy, or</li><li style="margin:0.25em 0px 0px;padding:0px;border:0px;background:transparent;list-style-type:lower-alpha;line-height:1.5em">whenever ARIN has reason to believe that an organization is not complying with reassignment policies, or</li><li style="margin:0.25em 0px 0px;padding:0px;border:0px;background:transparent;list-style-type:lower-alpha;line-height:1.5em">at any other time without having to establish cause unless a full review has been completed in the preceding 24 months.</li></ol></div><div><br></div><div>But I understand, yours is more about [1] , so you completely make sense.</div><div> </div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Noah</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="http://iptrading.com">iptrading.com</a> <br></div></div>
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