<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Dear Ornella,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">This is very misleading to link to those RIRs without the context for each of them.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">The "fraud" reports at ARIN and RIPE NCC are leading to de-registration, but because those are "fraud"</div><div class="gmail_extra">in the sense of falsified documentations, fake company registration papers and so on...</div><div class="gmail_extra">Not because the resources changed purpose, are not announced or any of what was suggested in this policy proposal.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Their "review" policies are checking for contact details and that the companies still exists, not for de-registration and resource re-evaluation of an LIR!<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 July 2017 at 15:04, Ornella GANKPA <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:honest1989@gmail.com" target="_blank">honest1989@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>+1 omo<br>
<br>
I am sure these have been discussed here, but latest discussions
on this list made me check the situation in other regions and I
found the following:<br>
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ARIN<br>
====<br>
INRs review<br>
<a class="gmail-m_-7924443419220575348moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#twelve" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/policy/<wbr>nrpm.html#twelve</a><br>
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Fraud and abuse reports<br>
<a class="gmail-m_-7924443419220575348moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/<wbr>resources/fraud/</a><br>
<br>
Quarterly report <br>
<a class="gmail-m_-7924443419220575348moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/results/" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/<wbr>resources/fraud/results/</a><br>
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RIPE<br>
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Audit Activity<br>
<a class="gmail-m_-7924443419220575348moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-423" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/<wbr>publications/docs/ripe-423</a><br>
<br>
Report form<br>
<a class="gmail-m_-7924443419220575348moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/report-form" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/report-<wbr>form</a><br>
<br>
This is an important role for RIR, so not surprising it is done
elsewhere and can be done by AFRINIC with all risks managed and
mitigated. This is becoming a must when we all seem to agree the
future of RIR is in “Registry Accuracy”.</p>
<p>Best regards<br>
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<pre class="gmail-m_-7924443419220575348moz-signature" cols="72">Honest Ornella GANKPA</pre><div><div class="gmail-h5">
<div class="gmail-m_-7924443419220575348moz-cite-prefix">Le 11/07/2017 à 09:27, Omo Oaiya a
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<div dir="ltr">Owen,
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<div>The final legal feedback notwithstanding (which I am sure
the authors will respond to), I only see negative feedback
from a handful of people. The fact that this is voiced
repeatedly does not in any way increase the volume.</div>
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<div>It is your misinterpretation that is more likely to be
confusing to the community. Resource review is essential
activity for Internet registries even if they are only
bookkeepers like some would have them be. </div>
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<div>AFRINIC would be failing in its accountability to the
community without a policy like this. Please let the
Co-Chairs do their job </div>
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<div>Omo</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 10 July 2017 at 23:18, Owen
DeLong <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>></span>
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The final legal feedback notwithstanding, I think
there has been more than enough negative feedback in
this last call to make it quite clear that this policy
does NOT have consensus at this time and I urge the
co-chairs to remand it to the authors and the list for
further refinement or abandonment rather than leaving
it in last call status. There is no reason for last
call to be maintained beyond the point where clearly
the policy has no consensus as is and will need
substantial revision. It only confuses the community.<br>
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Owen<br>
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> On Jul 10, 2017, at 12:55 , SamiSalih <<a href="mailto:sami@ntc.gov.sd" target="_blank">sami@ntc.gov.sd</a>>
wrote:<br>
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><br>
> Dear Andrew and Community,<br>
><br>
> As section (3.4.3) of the CPM stated the last
call can't be less than two week, however the
document didn't specify exact period for last call
to be concluded.<br>
><br>
> Please refer to the last Call section in the
following link<br>
> <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/library/policies/1829-afrinic-consolidated-policy-manual#PolicyDevelopmentProcess" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/library<wbr>/policies/1829-afrinic-consoli<wbr>dated-policy-manual#PolicyDeve<wbr>lopmentProcess</a><br>
><br>
> The Co-chair are evaluating feedbacks
specially those related to the legal issues in the
policy and as you know we just received the final
assessment of the legal advisor today.<br>
><br>
> Best Regards,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Dr. Sami Salih | Assistant Professor<br>
> Sudan University of Science and Technology<br>
> Eastern Dum, P.O Box 11111-407<br>
> email: <a href="mailto:sami.salih@sustech.edu" target="_blank">sami.salih@sustech.edu</a><br>
> Mob: <a href="tel:%2B249122045707" value="+249122045707" target="_blank">+249122045707</a><br>
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> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>> From: "Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.c<wbr>om</a>><br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
>> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:53:22 PM<br>
>> Subject: Re: [rpd] Last Call for
"AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number
Resources Review by AFRINIC"<br>
>><br>
>> By the way, as a question to the RPD
co-chairs.<br>
>><br>
>> Standard process is that last call is a 2
week period. By my count, last<br>
>> call has now been open longer than that
on this policy - can we get can<br>
>> indication from the co-chairs as to when
consensus or lack thereof will be<br>
>> declared for this last call period
please.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks<br>
>><br>
>> Andrew<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: Ashok Radhakissoon [mailto:<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank">ashok@afrinic.net</a>]<br>
>> Sent: 10 July 2017 14:07<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
>> Subject: [rpd] Last Call for
"AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number<br>
>> Resources Review by AFRINIC"<br>
>><br>
>> Dear All,<br>
>> Find for your consideration my final
assessment of the proposed policy under<br>
>> reference.<br>
>> Regards<br>
>> Ashok.B.Radhakissoon<br>
>> Legal Adviser<br>
>> AFRINIC<br>
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