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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-ZA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think that the problem here is that anyone can ask for a review on any member, with no restriction on the number of times. Tying up the member and AFRNIC and a admin nightmare.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It is my understanding that under the RSA, if resources are not being used, AFRNIC has the right to investigate. If there is evidence to suspect that a member has stopped using the resources under which the allocation was justified, I am sure that if such evidence was made available to AFRINIC, under the current RSA, they’d have the authority to validate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Marcus K. G. Adomey [mailto:madomey@hotmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 11 July 2017 03:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ornella GANKPA <honest1989@gmail.com>; Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> AfriNIC RPD MList. <rpd@afrinic.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hi Kris, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Is the former board member insinuating that AfriNIC is low class RIR"? How can the community understand this fall? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Anyway, how much does review cost ARIN and RIPE? Could would you please be specific with figures? How do they manage based on their respective size? Please stop appealing to emotion and rather be factual. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>By the way, your question “do you guys know arin and ripe financial capability?” clearly show that review should be done.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Are you saying that because of the perception that AfriNIC is poor we should not be accountable and transparent. What irony! You have therefore given more reason for the community to support, adopt and implement this policy.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Cheers<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Marcus<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Get <a href="https://aka.ms/ghei36">Outlook for Android</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> Kris Seeburn <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:10:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ornella GANKPA<br><b>Cc:</b> AfriNIC RPD MList.<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>just one question : do you guys know arin and ripe financial capability? in comparison to the weakest of all RIR? Think properly and cut emotions else guys do what you want and when afrinic is hit hard then do notl look back i hope the only 1500 we have also cheating our own system can bail afrinic out. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Ornella GANKPA <<a href="mailto:honest1989@gmail.com">honest1989@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>+1 omo<br><br>I am sure these have been discussed here, but latest discussions on this list made me check the situation in other regions and I found the following:<br><br>ARIN<br>====<br>INRs review<br><a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#twelve">https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#twelve</a><br><br>Fraud and abuse reports<br><a href="https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/">https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/</a><br><br>Quarterly report <br><a href="https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/results/">https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/results/</a><br><br><br>RIPE<br>=====<br><br>Audit Activity<br><a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-423">https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-423</a><br><br>Report form<br><a href="https://www.ripe.net/report-form">https://www.ripe.net/report-form</a><br><br>This is an important role for RIR, so not surprising it is done elsewhere and can be done by AFRINIC with all risks managed and mitigated. This is becoming a must when we all seem to agree the future of RIR is in “Registry Accuracy”.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Best regards<o:p></o:p></p><pre>Honest Ornella GANKPA<o:p></o:p></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal>Le 11/07/2017 à 09:27, Omo Oaiya a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Owen, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The final legal feedback notwithstanding (which I am sure the authors will respond to), I only see negative feedback from a handful of people. The fact that this is voiced repeatedly does not in any way increase the volume.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It is your misinterpretation that is more likely to be confusing to the community. Resource review is essential activity for Internet registries even if they are only bookkeepers like some would have them be. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>AFRINIC would be failing in its accountability to the community without a policy like this. Please let the Co-Chairs do their job <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Omo<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 10 July 2017 at 23:18, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Sami,<br><br>The final legal feedback notwithstanding, I think there has been more than enough negative feedback in this last call to make it quite clear that this policy does NOT have consensus at this time and I urge the co-chairs to remand it to the authors and the list for further refinement or abandonment rather than leaving it in last call status. There is no reason for last call to be maintained beyond the point where clearly the policy has no consensus as is and will need substantial revision. It only confuses the community.<br><span style='color:#888888'><br><span class=m55375853788510904m1062909282635004837gmail-hoenzb>Owen</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 12:55 , SamiSalih <<a href="mailto:sami@ntc.gov.sd" target="_blank">sami@ntc.gov.sd</a>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>> Dear Andrew and Community,<br>><br>> As section (3.4.3) of the CPM stated the last call can't be less than two week, however the document didn't specify exact period for last call to be concluded.<br>><br>> Please refer to the last Call section in the following link<br>> <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/library/policies/1829-afrinic-consolidated-policy-manual#PolicyDevelopmentProcess" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/library/policies/1829-afrinic-consolidated-policy-manual#PolicyDevelopmentProcess</a><br>><br>> The Co-chair are evaluating feedbacks specially those related to the legal issues in the policy and as you know we just received the final assessment of the legal advisor today.<br>><br>> Best Regards,<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Dr. Sami Salih | Assistant Professor<br>> Sudan University of Science and Technology<br>> Eastern Dum, P.O Box 11111-407<br>> email: <a href="mailto:sami.salih@sustech.edu" target="_blank">sami.salih@sustech.edu</a><br>> Mob: <a href="tel:%2B249122045707" target="_blank">+249122045707</a><br>><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>>> From: "Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br>>> To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>>> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:53:22 PM<br>>> Subject: Re: [rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"<br>>><br>>> By the way, as a question to the RPD co-chairs.<br>>><br>>> Standard process is that last call is a 2 week period. By my count, last<br>>> call has now been open longer than that on this policy - can we get can<br>>> indication from the co-chairs as to when consensus or lack thereof will be<br>>> declared for this last call period please.<br>>><br>>> Thanks<br>>><br>>> Andrew<br>>><br>>><br>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>> From: Ashok Radhakissoon [mailto:<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank">ashok@afrinic.net</a>]<br>>> Sent: 10 July 2017 14:07<br>>> To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>>> Subject: [rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number<br>>> Resources Review by AFRINIC"<br>>><br>>> Dear All,<br>>> Find for your consideration my final assessment of the proposed policy under<br>>> reference.<br>>> Regards<br>>> Ashok.B.Radhakissoon<br>>> Legal Adviser<br>>> AFRINIC<br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> RPD mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>>> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> RPD mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Omo Oaiya<br>CTO/Directeur 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