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Is the former board member insinuating that AfriNIC is low class RIR"? How can the community understand this fall?
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Anyway, how much does review cost ARIN and RIPE? Could would you please be specific with figures? How do they manage based on their respective size? Please stop appealing to emotion and rather be factual.
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By the way, your question “do you guys know arin and ripe financial capability?” clearly show that review should be done.<br>
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Are you saying that because of the perception that AfriNIC is poor we should not be accountable and transparent. What irony! You have therefore given more reason for the community to support, adopt and implement this policy.<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:10:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ornella GANKPA<br>
<b>Cc:</b> AfriNIC RPD MList.<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"</font>
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<div>just one question : do you guys know arin and ripe financial capability? in comparison to the weakest of all RIR? Think properly and cut emotions else guys do what you want and when afrinic is hit hard then do notl look back i hope the only 1500 we have
also cheating our own system can bail afrinic out.
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<div class="">On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Ornella GANKPA <<a href="mailto:honest1989@gmail.com" class="">honest1989@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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I am sure these have been discussed here, but latest discussions on this list made me check the situation in other regions and I found the following:<br class="">
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INRs review<br class="">
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This is an important role for RIR, so not surprising it is done elsewhere and can be done by AFRINIC with all risks managed and mitigated. This is becoming a must when we all seem to agree the future of RIR is in “Registry Accuracy”.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 11/07/2017 à 09:27, Omo Oaiya a écrit :<br class="">
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<div class="">AFRINIC would be failing in its accountability to the community without a policy like this. Please let the Co-Chairs do their job </div>
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The final legal feedback notwithstanding, I think there has been more than enough negative feedback in this last call to make it quite clear that this policy does NOT have consensus at this time and I urge the co-chairs to remand it to the authors and the list
for further refinement or abandonment rather than leaving it in last call status. There is no reason for last call to be maintained beyond the point where clearly the policy has no consensus as is and will need substantial revision. It only confuses the community.<br class="">
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> As section (3.4.3) of the CPM stated the last call can't be less than two week, however the document didn't specify exact period for last call to be concluded.<br class="">
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> The Co-chair are evaluating feedbacks specially those related to the legal issues in the policy and as you know we just received the final assessment of the legal advisor today.<br class="">
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>> From: "Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.c<wbr class="">om</a>><br class="">
>> To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br class="">
>> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:53:22 PM<br class="">
>> Subject: Re: [rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"<br class="">
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>> From: Ashok Radhakissoon [mailto:<a href="mailto:ashok@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">ashok@afrinic.net</a>]<br class="">
>> Sent: 10 July 2017 14:07<br class="">
>> To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br class="">
>> Subject: [rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number<br class="">
>> Resources Review by AFRINIC"<br class="">
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>> Dear All,<br class="">
>> Find for your consideration my final assessment of the proposed policy under<br class="">
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>> Regards<br class="">
>> Ashok.B.Radhakissoon<br class="">
>> Legal Adviser<br class="">
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