<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 10, 2017, at 6:53 AM, Chevalier du Borg <<a href="mailto:virtual.borg@gmail.com" class="">virtual.borg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">2017-06-10 16:05 GMT+04:00 Benjamin Eshun <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:benjamin.eshun@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">benjamin.eshun@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br class="">Why would a senior RIR principals be interested in promoting anti-shutdown at UN when colleagues like Vint Cerf are cautioning such moves [1]?</blockquote></div><br class=""><br class="">Hmmm. Vint Cert (The Father of the Internet) cautioning against it. So must be a bad idea in total. There is the kinds of thinking that will really advanced this community.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><br clear="all" class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div></div>Vint did not make any statement about anti-shutdown as being discussed in the UN.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">His statement was that politicizing IP allocations is a very bad idea. I agree with him about this.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I said as much at the microphone during the discussion of this proposal.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We must separate the flaws in this proposal from the concept of preventing or opposing internet shutdowns in general.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The former received condemnation from Vint. The latter did not.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>