<div dir="auto"><div>Hi Omo,<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 27, 2017 7:35 PM, "Omo Oaiya" <<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="quoted-text"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 June 2017 at 11:56, Kris Seeburn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" target="_blank">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><font face="Helvetica-Light"><span style="font-size:12.8px">I still stand opposed to the policy. People just call it an Andrew or liquid audit policy or a cloud innovations policy audit. Let’s not hide and get off with it.</span></font></div><div><font face="Helvetica-Light"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Helvetica-Light"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Kris</span></font></div></blockquote></div><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Are these people suggesting these organisations have something to hide? </div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">With the recent increased scrutiny of this list, I would had hoped the conversations to be more mature and less of accusative manners.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Remember that every time we participate on those lists, we all represent the AFRINIC community, our words reflect on everyone.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I don't see how this policy can be an issue for any member who has not violated the rules or abused contractual agreements with AfrINIC</div><div class="gmail_extra"></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You mean violated Policies...not contractual agreement, do not mix the RSA into this.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Breach or abuse of contractual agreement would be legal matters out of scope from the policies.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Policy violations exist, AFRINIC regularly rejects new allocations when reviewing previous utilisation and registration of assignments and Sub-allocations.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Should an LIR lose their allocation(s) for misusing their Sub-allocation window?</div><div dir="auto">I don't think so, they correct what needs to be corrected and move on with their operations.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Let's be a bit more accountable here. Responsible stewardship requires being able to audit and I understand that revocation is a last resort. I support the policy on this basis.</div><div class="gmail_extra"></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Stewardship in maintaining an accurate registry.</div><div dir="auto">Stewardship in ensuring the continuity of the organisation to facilitate the distribution of Internet resources.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Revocation of allocations by AFRINIC should never happen, allocations are not assignments, they are not issued for a dedicated purpose, they are registered to the LIR so that the LIR can further distribute the space as they see fit within the scope of the policies.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">More importantly, the policy is in last call and the authors have responded to legal's message through the Co-chairs. I look forward to the Co-chairs feedback on that matter.</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best wishes</div><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>-- <br><div class="m_2343910126334219378gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Omo Oaiya<br>CTO/Directeur Technique, WACREN <br>Mobile: <a href="tel:+234%20808%20888%201571" value="+2348088881571" target="_blank">+234 808 888 1571</a> , +221 784 305 224<br>Skype: kodion<span></span><span></span><a href="http:///" target="_blank"></a><br><a href="http://www.wacren.net" target="_blank">http://www.wacren.net</a></div><div dir="ltr"> <div><br></div></div></div></div></div><a href="http:///" target="_blank"></a></div></div></div></div>
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<br></blockquote></div>Cordialement,</div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto">David Hilario</div></div></div>