<div dir="ltr">Lu,<div><br></div><div>Your response is as diversionary as your attempt to label me racist. </div><div><br></div><div>It is hard not to notice that these are names and e-mail addresses that I have never encountered in the years I have been on the RPD list (including those when I just lurked)</div><div><br></div><div>I remain uncomfortable. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes</div><div>Omo</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 June 2017 at 14:12, Lu Heng <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com" target="_blank">h.lu@anytimechinese.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi<div><br></div><div>Mr. Cheng was the platinum sponsor AFRINIC djibouti meeting, and he is also the VP of CCSI(China Comservice International)'s AFRICAN operation, and he have been lived in <span style="color:rgb(69,69,69);font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size:12px">Ethiopia for past years to develop AFRICAN internet infrastructure.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(69,69,69);font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size:12px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(69,69,69);font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size:12px">CCSI is responsible for building many of AFRICAN nations's entire internet infrastructure and provide access of billions of AFRICANs.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(69,69,69);font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size:12px"><br></span></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue"><span style="font-size:12px">your accusation are very childish and impolite to a man literately provide internet to billions of your own people.</span></font></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue"><span style="font-size:12px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue"><span style="font-size:12px">With regards.</span></font></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue"><span style="font-size:12px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue"><span style="font-size:12px">Lu</span></font></div><div><span style="color:rgb(69,69,69);font-family:"Helvetica Neue";font-size:12px"><br></span></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_-9042453812724254392gmail-m_1748367600148943391h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 June 2017 at 19:35, Tutu Ngcaba <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pan.afrikhan@gmail.com" target="_blank">pan.afrikhan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">How are you Cheng,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Where you come from.? China maybe?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">ok why are you worried of this policy proposal if you did follow the instructions of the agreement RSA.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">why you are fearing if you can give report that the ip address used properly?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">anybody who is not done illegals mustn't be afraid of the policy. Maybe you are not using the IP address the Afrinic given you now you are panicked that the Afrinic shall review and find out. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">maybe you are even using it wrong places or selling the ip address in chinese.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I did not see any problem at all if all the companies complied to the agreement of this RSA as per this Afrinic policy.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Best Regards,<br>Tutu Ngcaba<br> </div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-9042453812724254392gmail-m_1748367600148943391m_-1311898031824551769h5">On 27 Jun 2017 12:59 p.m., "<a href="mailto:chenghn@chinaccsi.com" target="_blank">chenghn@chinaccsi.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:chenghn@chinaccsi.com" target="_blank">chenghn@chinaccsi.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_-9042453812724254392gmail-m_1748367600148943391m_-1311898031824551769h5"><div>
<div><span></span><span class="m_-9042453812724254392gmail-m_1748367600148943391m_-1311898031824551769m_-6363347299648845050m_-7251366839967771199gmail-im" style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">Dear Co-chairs and community,<br><br>After carefully reading through the arguments put forward, I oppose this policy.<br>As I cannot see any positive outcome from the policy proposal for any<br>organizations that are members of AFRINIC.<br><br>It places AFRINIC ltd in dangerous legal grounds, it contradicts the<br>recently approved transfer policy and will cost money and time for all<br>involved parties.<br><br>As I cannot see any benefit but only negative impact I would like to<br>have my opposition to this policy recorded.<br><br></span><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">As a representative from a multi-continental organization having</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">business across all the globe, I cannot support a policy that may</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">affect network operators and an RIR in a negative way.</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">We strive to always operate under the regulations and policies set in</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">place, across all the RIRs as should all LIRs involved in their</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">various regions, we cooperate with the RIRs upon request for more</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">information.</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">But this policy leaving things for "better use" to be judged by the</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">AFRINIC Ltd is too subjective and cannot be fulfilled.</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">Then comes the arbitration process.</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">Who will be the arbiters?</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">How will they be selected?</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">Who will approve them ultimately, AFRINIC or the LIR being Audited?</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">What information will be provided to the Arbiters?</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">We understand that as part of an Audit, business critical information</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">will need to be shared with AFRINIC Ltd, we cannot accept to further</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">share that information with third parties selected from the community,</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">this would be a breach of confidentiality and involve sharing company</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">sensitive information such as customer lists and current network</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">strategies with potential competitors.</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">AFRINIC Ltd cannot share confidential information provided by its LIR</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">to third parties.</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">What will AFRINIC do when LIR take them to court and makes claims for damages?</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">The LIRs may very well decide to take AFRINIC to court in their own</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">country, AFRINIC will then need to defend themselves in Cameroon or</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">Nigeria, all this will cost a lot of money time and resources from</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">AFRINIC Ltd, which we will have to pay for.</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">This makes the policy having negative impact not only on the ones</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">being reviewed, but on the entire membership as we will all pay for</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">these reviews consequences.</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">Based on all the above, I again have to state that I formally oppose</span><br style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">this policy proposal in its current form.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">Best Regards</span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",Tahoma;line-height:normal;font-size:12.8px">Paul Cheng</span></div>
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