<div dir="auto"><br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 Jun 2017 4:36 p.m., "Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-2015253900369589091WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Audits cost time – Audits cost money – the bigger the organization and the more resource involved – the larger the cost – and someone has to pick
up those costs. Under the current policy – if the audit is proved to be futile – money will have been wasted – LARGE amounts of it – and since the policy refuses to disclose who ASKED for the audit in the first place – the organisation being audited has no
recourse against fallacious accusations – and yes – that may well get AfriNIC sued.</span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">Brother Andrew,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">no you are making it looked like its this big huge task to complete. the Afrinic employee they get paid salary to work. they shall do. if your company is organised very very well and like its gotta this monitoring and the management systems tools, it is simple task of showing from this system. the afrinic has system like the whois which can show management and the allocated ip address. this is why even spam people easy to catch if they abuse because management system of whois can tell quick which ip address used to spam. so easy to even audit the afrinic using the whois.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-2015253900369589091WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">While I realize from some entirely naïve academic perspective auditing IP resources might sound like a simple task – it isn’t – always that simple
– because the definition of audit says verify – and organisations that have thousands and thousands of assignments will need significant resources and money to complete such a task – a cost that must be born by someone.</span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">did you not have this monitoring tools and the ones for logs. like nagios, like the cacti, like the ip-plan, like the graphings tools for all the ip address in usage in your company as isp. this will make it simple for you to record ip address used and which is not used per the customers.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">what kind of ISP will not know which ip address it given to the customer to be used? this is what can easy to show when audit happened very quickly.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-2015253900369589091WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As for the complaints about the Chinese involvement – say what you like, if a member is here on this list and objecting – they have every right to
do so – enshrined in the PDP is that ALL members of the community have a say and consensus must be based on ALL members, not those we like, those we agree with, those that speak our language, those that live in our countries, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.</span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">but they will lie bra and some will be afraid like they hide something. I seen one member say their company giving internet to a billion people of Africa. can you believe this kind of lies.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">Best Regards,<br>Tutu Ngcaba<br></div><br></div></div>