<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi everyone,<br><br></div>I cannot agree more with Caleb on alll his points. I too oppose this policy because i believe we don't need it as of now. We are doing well so far with the current style (co-chairs) for so many reasons. This type of collaborative work has proved to work not only here but in so many other avenues where i am involved.<br><br></div>Until we have solid reasons to change it, let's stop this discussion for now and work on some more important stuffs on this PDP list.<br><br></div>Regards,<br></div>Arsene<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>------------------------<br>*<a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali" target="_blank"><b>Arsène Tungali</b></a>*<br></div>Co-Founder & Executive Director, <span><i><a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org" target="_blank">Rudi international</a></i>,</span><br>CEO,<i> <a href="http://www.smart-serv.info" target="_blank">Smart Services Sarl</a></i>, <i><a href="http://www.mabingwa-forum.com" target="_blank">Mabingwa Forum</a></i> <br>Tel: +243 993810967<i><br></i></div><div>GPG: 523644A0<i><br></i></div><div><u>Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo</u><i><br><br></i></div><div><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html" target="_blank">2015 Mandela Washington Felllow</a> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors" target="_blank">Brazil</a> & <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors" target="_blank">Mexico</a>) <font face="monospace,monospace">- <a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/" target="_blank">AFRISIG 2016</a> - </font><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com" target="_blank">Blogger</a> - ICANN Fellow (<a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en" target="_blank">Los Angeles</a> & <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en" target="_blank">Marrakech</a>).<i> </i>AFRINIC Fellow<i> </i>(<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners" target="_blank">Mauritius</a>)<i> - </i><a href="http://www.igfsa.org/" target="_blank">IGFSA Member</a> - Internet Governance - Internet Freedom.<i> </i><br><br>Check the <i>2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC</i> report (<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234" target="_blank">English</a>) and (<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242" target="_blank">French</a>)<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-06-19 12:23 GMT+02:00 caleb olumuyiwa <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com" target="_blank">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear Ornella,<div>I have read through your proposal and i have some reservations specifically on the need to have one chair and a vice-chair. While your justification could also be that it exist in other climes, i do not see or foresee any current and future problem that should make the community change the existing arrangement. The question is: Has the current arrangement given the community any issues in the past or recently?</div><div>Why the call for the change now that things are stable and there is unity in the community?</div><div>We need to consider the fact that power of rough consensus will be vested / concentrated in one person who will only ask his vice-chair for his/her opinion which might probably never count.The choice of co-chair by the community is strictly to foster team work and create a balance in opinion and measure the rough consensus fairly. What if the only chair has a conflict of interest? How do we curb the excesses of over concentration of powers in one chair?</div><div>Secondly, this is a voluntary job and there is lots of work to be done, why overload one chair with so much work and make a vice-chair dormant and can only be activated for sundry assignments? </div><div>While my opinion could be wrong from the comments i have made above, i wish to get some clear understanding / corrections on the need to make the change of the current structure or perhaps, learn from experienced senior members of the community in this regard.</div><div><br></div><div>Caleb</div><div><br><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Ornella GANKPA <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:honest1989@gmail.com" target="_blank">honest1989@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">Hello everyone,<br>
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Initiators of the new pdp-bis proposal AFPUB-2017-GEN-002-DRAFT-01<br>
[1], in an effort to improve the policy, are willing to hear from the<br>
working group, about settling the matter around one chair and a<br>
vice-chair compared to the current model of 2 cochairs .<br>
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In the current situation, chairs with the same level of responsabilities<br>
can get stuck when making decision towards a policy proposal thus<br>
hindering its progress. Working group discussion moderation by two<br>
independent individuals can be inefficient. This lack of "consensus"<br>
between co-chairs freezes the working group operations as well as the<br>
policy development process<br>
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Our proposal aims to settle those issues with one chair who makes the<br>
final decision and a vice chair.<br>
<br>
Community might be concerned about giving one single Chair, too much<br>
power. The balance with that is found in stricking deeply the appeal<br>
process to make it as larger as possible and open to anybody at any step<br>
of a policy proposal's life.<br>
<br>
During AIS17 in Nairobi, initiators have gathered positive comments from<br>
the floor, some supporting linguistic diversity between Chairs. We're<br>
willing to pursue the debate and bring some new air to the proposal.<br>
<br>
Thanks all beforehand for your comments.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
[1]<br>
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