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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Ok,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">That’s good news – in which case – can we request that the history on the policy be updated to accurately reflect this – so that what is stated online reflects adherence to the PDP process<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> Mark Elkins [mailto:mje@posix.co.za]
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<b>Sent:</b> 07 June 2017 11:16<br>
<b>To:</b> rpd@afrinic.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Question about the current soft landing policy...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>From my archives, (McTims date on his PC is suspect)<span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p>Posted: 03/11/2011 22:16<br>
From: McTIM<br>
(Delivery-date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:19:05 +0200)<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>All,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>A sharp eyed reader has pointed out that the version number in the<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>above subject line is incorrect.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>It should read "AFPUB-2011-v4-004".<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Apologies for the error.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>McTim<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>AfriNIC PDWG co-chair<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>On 9/9/11, McTim <a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com"><dogwallah@gmail.com></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Dear Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>The last call period has now closed for the Global Policy for Post<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Exhaustion IPv4 Allocation Mechanisms by the IANA (AFPUB-2010-v4-006)<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>policy proposal.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>No objections were received on this proposal during the last call<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>period. This policy proposal was also deemed to have reached consensus<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>at AfriNIC-14 face-to-face Public Policy Meeting.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>The Policy Discussion Working Group Co-Chairs, therefore, hereby<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>declare that consensus has been achieved.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>The PDWG Co-Chairs will now proceed to report to the AfriNIC Board on<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>this proposal and will recommend ratification by the Board.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Regards,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>PDWG Co-Chairs<o:p></o:p></pre>
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So it appears that the PDP Co-Chairs called consensus, did the last call and asked the Board to ratify.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 07/06/2017 05:13, Andrew Alston wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi Guys,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">So, I was looking at the current soft landing policy – and I’m now confused –
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">According to the history of the policy as per what is published:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On the 28<sup>th</sup> of May 2011 the last call completed and the PDWG co-chairs declared no consensus.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On the 5<sup>th</sup> of August 2011 an updated version of the proposal was posted to the website and the rpd mailing list</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On the 11<sup>th</sup> of November 2011 the proposal was ratified by the board under resolution 201111.138</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Can someone explain to me how this is possible – because between the posting of an updated version of the proposal on the 5<sup>th</sup> of August 2011 and the resolution that ratified the policy – there was no public
policy meeting – the public policy meeting was held at AFRINIC-15 from the 19<sup>th</sup> to 25<sup>th</sup> of November 2011 in Cameroon.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Even if we assume that consensus on the policy was found at AFRINIC-14 between the 4<sup>th</sup> and 10<sup>th</sup> of June 2011 in Dar es Salaam – the process states that there should have been another last call period
on the policy that was ratified (even if modifications were concluded in dar es salaam).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">So – if that history is correct on the policy – the ratification of the policy is not valid since it is a violation of the PDP process – does anyone have any archives that go back this far so we can get a real history
on the current policy and check its validity please?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Andrew</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa<o:p></o:p></pre>
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