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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-ZA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Please can you explain how this is an abuse of the RPD?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>We have a serious issue of internet shutdowns on our continent. The impact that it has on education, the economy etc is immeasurable!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This should be of grace concern to all of us!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The authors of the policy have stated numerous times that this is an evolving proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The important thing is that it is encouraging global debate on how to resolve this issue. THAT is what this proposal is about – ways to prevent this from happening.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Whatever solutions we come up with – but that can only happen with this debate, so I don’t see how it’s a waist!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Saul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Mirriam [mailto:mirriamlauren@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 11 May 2017 08:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tutu Ngcaba <pan.afrikhan@gmail.com>; Mark Elkins <mje@posix.co.za><br><b>Cc:</b> General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>; AfriNIC List <rpd@afrinic.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I totally agree with what Badru has stated and I really hope the PDP update policy proposal on the table before us can help to improve the Afrinic policy development process and environment notwithstanding quality of work so as to avoid such abuses of the pdp.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>KR,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Mirriam<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_4758899845"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>On Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 1:41:29 PM GMT+3, Tutu Ngcaba <<a href="mailto:pan.afrikhan@gmail.com">pan.afrikhan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=yiv2708412857><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Brother Elkins,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>The ICANN chairman Steve said some concern of internet shutdown will undermine the missions of Icann and the Afrinic and they two have the </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>potential power to do something in return. </span><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>The Afrinic Government Working Group AFGWG can work with the ICANN to achieve more mutlistakeholders talkings and meetings. This is what needs to be done in return.<br><br>I ask the AFGWG to do some taking to the ICANN and they can meet our governments for education on economic important of Internet.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Best Regards,<br><br>Tutu Ngcaba<br>Kwazulu Techno Hubs<br>South Africa<br> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>On 10 May 2017 12:53 p.m., "Mark Elkins" <<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" target="_blank">mje@posix.co.za</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div id=yiv2708412857yqt95330><div><p><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I downloaded the complete video from RIPE and watched it a few times. I was also watching live.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Its large - but if you can do, download it and watch it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><a href="https://ripe74.ripe.net/archive/video/Andrew_Alston-Anti-Shutdown_Policies_-_The_Rationale-20170508-171822.mp4" target="_blank">https://ripe74.ripe.net/archiv e/video/Andrew_Alston-Anti- Shutdown_Policies_-_The_Ration ale-20170508-171822.mp4</a>'<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Then again, when the Chairman of ICANN stands up and says that ICANN can help. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>"Hi, my name is Steve Crocker, I am Chairman of ICANN and I'm here to help you. (Regarding) take out of the root the affected ccTLD names" and he then volunteered assistance from ICANN staff - also saying it would take between two and five years to get to a decision whether to proceed or not.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>The current policy concept does not go that far - but to me - certainly suggests that the idea of punitive actions against governments is worth looking at.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I regard it like a nuclear bomb. When in the hands of sane people (RIR's and ICANN), it is a threat - to persuade bad actors to have second thoughts against cutting people off from access to the Internet. If governments choose to cut people off from access to the Internet for political reasons, to me this is undermining the core mission of ICANN and the RIR's, both of whom have the potential power to do something in return. We need to enable that power from being simply a potential to being ready for use and hope its never needed to be used.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>On 10/05/2017 11:01, Noah wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Mmmm on the contrary seems like most folk on the floor disagreed with the contraversial policy and its approach no matter how much the Arthors seek for better ways to improve it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Some suggested multistake holder engagement and in particular Leslie Daigle comments on the floor are worth taking into serious considerations by the way.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Leslie Daigle of ISOC agrees that there is a problem. She has concerns but sounded to me more would like to see something. She just doesn't want to see dialogue being undermined by this policy.<br><br>Perhaps talk is not enough?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>The best comment in my opinion was from the Alan Durand who reminded everyone what the real core mission of the RIR community is, and that is....<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I'd say he was more worried about the policy being used for much more than it is currently intended for. (referenced to the colour of people's hair as a reason to cut them off the Internet).<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>"To allocate resources and maintain the accuracy of the database".PERIOD. [1]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Noah<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>[1]I have had in the past folk state statements like "How some ome runs his network is none of anyones business and in that matter policing the network is none of AFRINICs business" </span><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>On 10 May 2017 10:39 a.m., "Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.c om</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div id="yiv2708412857m_-4330836854662846082m_7987969332886343718m_-5977107219240916377compose-container"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Thanks Marcus,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Just some feedback for the community.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>It's been a great experience here at RIPE and some of the ideas given and the extensive discussions following the presentation referred to by Marcus have been both useful and informative.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Draft 2 will be submitted shortly very much in line with what I presented in that presentation - and before the 7 day deadline as per the PDP so we can discuss on that basis.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Following the meeting in Nairobi, I suspect we will then be gathering still further input and further drafts will follow, if there is no consensus found on the floor for the draft 2 that will be submitted.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I think for myself, the most important thing I have seen at RIPE so far, is the huge willingness by people from every walk of life to engage in dialog and discussion over this, and it was heartening to see both my own positions and the positions of those I was discussing with shift as explanations were given and questions were asked and answered. Since giving that presentation I have barely had a minute to think as people approached me to talk this through - and I really hope to see such engagement in Nairobi, because it truly showed the benefit of a multi stakeholder approach where open dialog and communication can happen, even in the absence of agreement and in the face of controversial material where people hold strong and emotive views.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I look forward to the discussions on the floor of the PDP and engaging with all of you to hear your thoughts and views and finding the right solution to the issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Get <a href="https://aka.ms/o0ukef" target="_blank">Outlook for iOS</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id="yiv2708412857m_-4330836854662846082m_7987969332886343718m_-5977107219240916377divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> Marcus K. G. Adomey <<a href="mailto:madomey@hotmail.com" target="_blank">madomey@hotmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 9, 2017 11:48:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>; <a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE</span><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div id="yiv2708412857m_-4330836854662846082m_7987969332886343718m_-5977107219240916377divtagdefaultwrapper"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Dear Colleagues.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>You might want to see the presentation of the controversial draft anti-shutdown policy (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01) at a recent RIPE meeting. I found the questions/comments from the RIPE community similar to that shared by many on the RPD, mostly about the inappropriateness of such policy in our region… or any other for that matter. Enjoy watching it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://ripe74.ripe.net/archives/video/41/" target="_blank" id="yiv2708412857m_-4330836854662846082m_7987969332886343718m_-5977107219240916377LPlnk241737">https://ripe74.ripe.net/archiv es/video/41/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:15.0pt;overflow:auto' id="yiv2708412857m_-4330836854662846082m_7987969332886343718m_-5977107219240916377LPBorder_GT_14943664579210.690471846288192"><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="90%" style='width:90.0%;background:white;border-top:dotted #C8C8C8 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:dotted #C8C8C8 1.0pt;border-right:none'><tr><td width=250 valign=top style='width:187.5pt;border:none;padding:15.0pt 15.0pt 15.0pt .75pt'><div style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;display:table' id="yiv2708412857m_-4330836854662846082m_7987969332886343718m_-5977107219240916377LPImageContainer_14943664579070.15267319087009934"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt;background:white'><a href="https://ripe74.ripe.net/archives/video/41/" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=249 height=249 id="yiv2708412857m_-4330836854662846082m_7987969332886343718m_-5977107219240916377LPThumbnailImageID_14943664579110.32596987863840843" src="https://ripe74.ripe.net/wp-content/themes/fluida-ripe-child/images/fb-image.png"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></td><td valign=top style='border:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;display:table-cell' id="yiv2708412857m_-4330836854662846082m_7987969332886343718m_-5977107219240916377TextCell_14943664579140.04297172411081385"><div id="yiv2708412857m_-4330836854662846082m_7987969332886343718m_-5977107219240916377LPTitle_14943664579150.012079917877686697"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt'><a href="https://ripe74.ripe.net/archives/video/41/" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'>Archives – RIPE 74</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="yiv2708412857m_-4330836854662846082m_7987969332886343718m_-5977107219240916377LPMetadata_14943664579180.790047043554678"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt'><a href="http://ripe74.ripe.net" target="_blank">ripe74.ripe.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Marcus<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><br>______________________________ _________________<br>Community-Discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mail man/listinfo/community-discuss</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><pre>______________________________ _________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>RPD mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mail man/listinfo/rpd</a><span style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Mark James ELKINS - 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