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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Badru,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The topic of shutdowns concerns an active proposal currently before the policy working group – which is what this list was created for. I’d say
discussing policy on the policy list makes a lot of sense </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Badru Ntege [mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> 18 April 2017 17:35<br>
<b>To:</b> Noah <noah@neo.co.tz>; baldwin.okello@gmail.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Sunday Folayan <sfolayan@gmail.com>; rpd List <rpd@afrinic.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Correcting some misconceptions about the anti-shutdown policy proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On 4/16/17, 1:24 PM, "Noah" <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Fair enough, I will move mu concerns on accountability and transparency onto a new thread less folk dodge that bullet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Puzzled since the topic on shutdown is really not a technical issue one thinks it should also be moved to discuss so we focus on real technical issues on the rpd
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On 16 Apr 2017 10:48 a.m., "<a href="mailto:baldwin.okello@gmail.com">baldwin.okello@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:baldwin.okello@gmail.com">baldwin.okello@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">From correcting misconceptions about the ANTI-SHUTDOWN Policy Proposal, now we are at AFRINIC's accountability and Transparency. Why not just start a separate
thread for that so some of us can keenly follow the the discussion on the actual subject. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">If you live in a glass house, don't throw stones. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">We talk about our governments keeping the internet open, but how well has the board been open to its members and the community? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">If i may, where do we stand with improving Afrinic's accountability? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">What happened to the bottom up process and transparency?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I feel unhappy that, instead you appreciate member dissatisfaction, empasis, you instead resort into questioning him. This does not bring our community together
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Best practise would be that the board consults membership/community before making statements like "keeping the Internet open" ....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Le 13 avr. 2017 16:47, "Sunday Folayan" <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@gmail.com" target="_blank">sfolayan@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear Arnaud,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span class="m8805483587113288655m6763343236988082265m-2000854730739829755m2036494074284633079gmail-"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Your statement - "the Board makes decisions unilaterally"</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On 13/04/2017 16:47, Arnaud AMELINA wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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There is no restraint, no consideration for the community, the Board makes decisions unilaterally, the CEO answers in the place of the authors of a policy, the staff that starts to produce policy, co-chairs that seem helpless To manage the flow, an individual
who takes hostage a whole community, when he talks everything is good, when we talk we are shown code-of-conduct. Oh ! Dear members of the community, I am really sad. This is an observation that engages only me I can deceive, if all goes for the best in the
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<pre><span style="color:#888888">Sunday Adekunle Folayan<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#888888">Managing Director<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#888888">General data Engineering Services (SKANNET)<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#888888">16 Oshin Road, Kongi Bodija, Ibadan - Nigeria<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#888888">Phone: <a href="tel:+234%20802%20291%202202" target="_blank">+234 802 291 2202</a>, <a href="tel:+234%20816%20866%207523" target="_blank">+234 816 866 7523</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#888888">Email: <a href="mailto:sfolayan@skannet.com.ng" target="_blank">sfolayan@skannet.com.ng</a>, <a href="mailto:sfolayan@gmail.com" target="_blank">sfolayan@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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