<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div><div>On 4/16/17, 1:24 PM, "Noah" <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:</div></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto">Hi Baldwin,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Fair enough, I will move mu concerns on accountability and transparency onto a new thread less folk dodge that bullet.</div></div></blockquote></span><div><br></div><div>Puzzled since the topic on shutdown is really not a technical issue one thinks it should also be moved to discuss so we focus on real technical issues on the rpd list.</div><div><br></div><div>Me thinks…</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Noah</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 Apr 2017 10:48 a.m., "<a href="mailto:baldwin.okello@gmail.com">baldwin.okello@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:baldwin.okello@gmail.com">baldwin.okello@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">From correcting misconceptions about the ANTI-SHUTDOWN Policy Proposal, now we are at AFRINIC's accountability and Transparency. Why not just start a separate thread for that so some of us can keenly follow the the discussion on the actual subject. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Happy Easter folks</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Baldwin</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Noah <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">If you live in a glass house, don't throw stones. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We talk about our governments keeping the internet open, but how well has the board been open to its members and the community? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If i may, where do we stand with improving Afrinic's accountability? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What happened to the bottom up process and transparency?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheers,</div><div dir="auto">Noah</div></div><div class="m_8805483587113288655HOEnZb"><div class="m_8805483587113288655h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 Apr 2017 3:16 p.m., "Arnaud AMELINA" <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div dir="auto">Dear Chair,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I feel unhappy that, instead you appreciate member dissatisfaction, empasis, you instead resort into questioning him. This does not bring our community together ?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For exemple : </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best practise would be that the board consults membership/community before making statements like "keeping the Internet open" ....</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Arnaud </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 13 avr. 2017 16:47, "Sunday Folayan" <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@gmail.com" target="_blank">sfolayan@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_8805483587113288655m_6763343236988082265m_-2000854730739829755quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Dear Arnaud,</p>
<p><span id="m_8805483587113288655m_6763343236988082265m_-2000854730739829755m_2036494074284633079gmail-result_box" class="m_8805483587113288655m_6763343236988082265m_-2000854730739829755m_2036494074284633079gmail-" lang="en"><span class="m_8805483587113288655m_6763343236988082265m_-2000854730739829755m_2036494074284633079gmail-"> Your statement - "the Board makes decisions
unilaterally"</span></span></p>
Kindly provide more information on the unilateral decisions taken by
the Board, which are not within its purview.<br>
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<div class="m_8805483587113288655m_6763343236988082265m_-2000854730739829755m_2036494074284633079moz-cite-prefix">On 13/04/2017 16:47, Arnaud AMELINA
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<div dir="ltr"><span id="m_8805483587113288655m_6763343236988082265m_-2000854730739829755m_2036494074284633079gmail-result_box" class="m_8805483587113288655m_6763343236988082265m_-2000854730739829755m_2036494074284633079gmail-" lang="en"><span>I am sad to see how AFRINIC is currently
managed.</span> <span class="m_8805483587113288655m_6763343236988082265m_-2000854730739829755m_2036494074284633079gmail-">There is no restraint,
no consideration for the community, the Board makes
decisions unilaterally, the CEO answers in the place of the
authors of a policy, the staff that starts to produce
policy, co-chairs that seem helpless</span> <span class="m_8805483587113288655m_6763343236988082265m_-2000854730739829755m_2036494074284633079gmail-">To manage the flow, an individual who takes
hostage a whole community, when he talks everything is good,
when we talk we are shown code-of-conduct.</span> <span>Oh
!</span> <span>Dear members of the community, I am really
sad.</span> <span class="m_8805483587113288655m_6763343236988082265m_-2000854730739829755m_2036494074284633079gmail-">This is an observation
that engages only me I can deceive, if all goes for the best
in the world to Afrinic then all my apologies.</span></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-04-13 15:27 GMT+00:00 Alan Barrett
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net" target="_blank">alan.barrett@afrinic.net</a>></span>:<br>
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> On 13 Apr 2017, at 16:02, abel ELITCHA <<a href="mailto:kmw.elitcha@gmail.com" target="_blank">kmw.elitcha@gmail.com</a>>
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> Dear CEO,<br>
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> Does the above statements coming from Ceo superseding
co-authors or pdp cochairs?<br>
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</span>The authors and PDWG chairs can speak for
themselves. I was speaking as the CEO, attempting to
correct some misconceptions.<br>
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