<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Badru </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Thanks I have to say I agree with you. As pointed before I appreciate the thought and the feeling that something needs to be done but I am not in personal favor of the actions presented in the policy. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">We should be able to find alternatives to how we look at this but if you look at my views I am not encouraging the actions proposed but t sure we need to find a way of balance somewhere in between. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">That's my take on the situation or policy presented. I am for the thinking that has gone in but am not quite totally for the section which proposes hard actions. I fell we can as community find something that tackles the situation but in a more hard but gentlemen way that does not put afrinic as a policing position.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">All I* are working towards freedom and net neutrality as an outset. So am sure we can find and fix the actions and be open minded to our decisions.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">So again am partly in support go the policy more so to the ideology but the actions proposed does not help anyone long term. But am sure the community will strike a good balance.<br><br>Kris</div><div><br>On 13 Apr 2017, at 00:36, Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div><div> Kris</div></div></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div><div>On 4/12/17, 8:52 PM, "Kris Seeburn" <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div></div><div> </div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We should not also forget Egypt at what happened their. As much as we hide our faces these will never get sorted by there ownself. I am not saying that we need to act so forcibly but something that puts government on guard and respect people rights.</div></div></div></blockquote></span><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>To some people and many who lost their loved ones in Egypt the same government is still in power wearing a different hat. So if a policy like the one being proposed were passed and some voices wanted AfriNIC to trigger clause 13.1. How would this play out. ???</div><div><br></div><div>We need to be very cautious. I know many might even be offended by the above paragraph which is the exact point about subjectivity.</div><div><br></div><div>We had a shutdown in Uganda during the last elections and the security organs have a mountain of what one could call subjective evidence to justify what they did. I cannot judge either way but in their position with the evidence and knowledge they had at the time they thought they were doing the right thing and still defend that position. </div><div> </div><div>I know for sure the same is going to happen in a number of other countries whether or not we have a policy in place.</div><div><br></div><div>There are allot more important things that Afrinic should be worrying about. </div><div><br></div><div>I’m sure there is some policy at the UN or AU we can send this policy text to </div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 12, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" class="">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">After all no government would want to be told that they are offline because some "Company Ltd" based somewhere in the middle of the Indian Ocean has switched them off (no offence Kris, to the Star and Key of the Indian Ocean... just wearing the hat of some typical African dictator :-).<br class=""><br class="">This section is worth some thinking on a longer run! Thanks Walu!<br class=""><br class="">-----------------<br class="">Arsène Tungali,<br class="">@arsenebaguma<br class="">+243 993810967<br class="">GPG: 523644A0<br class="">Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Apr 12, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Walubengo J <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" class="">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">After all no government would want to be told that they are offline because some "Company Ltd" based somewhere in the middle of the Indian Ocean has switched them off (no offence Kris, to the Star and Key of the Indian Ocean... just wearing the hat of some typical African dictator :-).<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">RPD mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" class="">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Kris Seeburn</div><div class=""><a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" class="">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a></div><div class=""><ul style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 8px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; list-style: none; line-height: 17px; display: table-cell; width: 504px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""><li style="margin: 0px; padding: 8px 12px 2px 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-size: 11px; font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; font-variant: inherit; line-height: 1.2em;" class=""><dl class="public-profile" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; font-variant: inherit; line-height: inherit; word-wrap: break-word;"><dd style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 9px 1px 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-family: inherit; vertical-align: top; font-variant: inherit; line-height: inherit; display: inline-block; zoom: 1;" class=""><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/kseeburn/" title="View public profile" name="webProfileURL" style="margin: 0px 10px 0px 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 19px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-family: inherit; vertical-align: middle; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-variant: inherit; line-height: inherit; display: inline-block; zoom: 1; background-image: url(http://s.c.lnkd.licdn.com/scds/common/u/images/apps/profile/sprite/sprite_profile_top_card_v8.png); background-position: 0px -249px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat;" class="">www.linkedin.com/in/kseeburn/</a></dd></dl></li></ul></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________
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