<div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">+1 Seun, Arsené and Badru<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">The case of Internet </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">Shutdown is not only sensitive but very serious and should be treated as such.</div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline"><p><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)">13.1 In the event of an internet shutdown performed at the order of a government that is either total or partial:</span></p><ol style="list-style-type:lower-alpha"><li><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)">For a period of 12 months following the end of the shutdown – AFRINIC will allocate no resources to the government of the country. <font style="background-color:rgb(0,255,0)">This also applies to all government owned entities and entities that have direct provable relationships with said government.</font></span></li></ol></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline"><span><span><br></span></span></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">How do you justify the highlighted segment? I'm glad Andrew said the authors are ready to reword this area to prevent the innocent ones from suffering for no just cause. My people say that "Government will only cut the finger(s) that sinned" (literally). There must be a justifiable reason to paralyze the activities of academic institutions and agencies of Governments who are individual AFRINIC members just because their respective Governments ordered an internet shutdown.</div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline"><br></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">The issues raised by Badru on whether AFRINIC has a mandate to perform this policing role should also be considered.</div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline"><br></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">Someone on the list has also asked if a similar policy is already in place in other regions. We need info on this please, it might just help the community to move forward in the right direction.</div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline"><br></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">I also think the "Secret Working Group" may just be available to assist in this area through dialogue with Governments with intention to shutdown or after shutting down the internet.</div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline"><br></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">In all, bringing up a policy with the objective to punish the members of the AFRINIC community (directly or indirectly) to whom AFRINIC has been mandated to serve is inappropriate. </div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline"><br></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">Kind Regards</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 12, 2017 10:10 AM, "Seun Ojedeji" <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hello,<br><br></div>These are government entities(their addresses and contacts will give you a hint) and my point is that banning/restricting government entities because the presidency gave an order to shutdown the internet isn't appropriate. The government itself that gave the order isn't the member, it is her entities that are members and those entities did not need to get approval of the presidency to acquire their space. Going the proposed route:<br><br>- Does not promote the open internet me and you are clamouring for. <br>- Will not make AFRINIC sustainable in the long run <br>- May serve as a distraction to AFRINIC in performing her core function of keeping record and administration of IP resource for our region. <br>- Takes AFRINIC from being a neutral entity to being more politically inclined<br></div>- In the long run, It further breaks the internet than fix it because I will then have to resolve to NATing if I can't get access to my space anymore<br></div>- It exposes AFRINIC to unnecessary legal suits from those entities which AFRINIC has an agreement with, also consider the legal cost that will be involved<br></div>- It affects the economy negatively and reduces competition among providers.<br></div>- At first it sounds like it will help service providers which are privately owned but in the long run it wouldn't because some of the providers income can still be traced to those govt entities.<br><div><div><div><div><br></div><div>Again while the intent is great, a policy at RIR level cannot be the solution. So this is not a matter of rewording the policy in a way that is acceptable its more that this isn't practical (especially if we want to re-word to apply to govt alone because they are not the members) and it is unreasonable/unfair if we want to apply it to govt entities.<br><br></div><div>Regards<br></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:05 PM, Keshwarsingh Nadan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kn@millenium.net.mu" target="_blank">kn@millenium.net.mu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
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