<div dir="auto"><div>As you can see this issue not only in our Africa.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Can the Afrinic steer this discussion across a wider community.</span><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">This is not a policy issue, its a hot topical issue that is beyond even draconic policy proposal as one of the Authors said.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif">May the Authors widthraw the harsh proposal and let the Afrinic lead and engage entire african community through mailing lists like community discuss and africann as this lists will engage everyone and encourage a multistakeholder wider discussion.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Best Regards,<br><br>Tutu Ngcaba<br>Kwazulu Techno Hubs<br>South Africa<br>    </div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 Apr 2017 12:06 p.m., "Kris Seeburn" <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" target="_blank">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_-4092637998748471214quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>I’d like to refer some articles, these are just a few that has been noted. However please have a look at the brookings report as well:</div><div><a href="https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/intenet-shutdowns-v-3.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.brookings.edu/wp-c<wbr>ontent/uploads/2016/10/intenet<wbr>-shutdowns-v-3.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div>It is actually good to look at stats and reality. Again as i said before the philosophy of the policy brought forward is a fact that we cannot turn our back from, but we as the community need to see what and how best interest we can support ourselves and not let governments decide on what we as a right to information get through the internet or not. We are all reasonable people who understand challenges. Since the UN classifies Internet as a human right we should act but i would not necessarily act and use the heavy duty artillery in the policy but am sure we can collectively find something that can work in the right way.</div><div><br></div><div>Egypt:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/28/egypt_vodafone_shuts/" target="_blank">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2<wbr>011/01/28/egypt_vodafone_shuts<wbr>/</a></div><div><a href="http://dyn.com/blog/egypts-net-on-life-support/" target="_blank">http://dyn.com/blog/egypts-net<wbr>-on-life-support/</a></div><div><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/28/egypt_internet_switchoff/" target="_blank">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2<wbr>011/01/28/egypt_internet_switc<wbr>hoff/</a></div><div><a href="https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/01/egypt_last_net_lost/" target="_blank">https://www.theregister.co.uk/<wbr>2011/02/01/egypt_last_net_lost<wbr>/</a></div><div><a href="https://www.ft.com/content/08dbe398-2abb-11e0-a2f3-00144feab49a" target="_blank">https://www.ft.com/content/08d<wbr>be398-2abb-11e0-a2f3-00144feab<wbr>49a</a></div><div><br></div><div>Cameroon:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/03/africa/internet-shutdown-cameroon/" target="_blank">http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02<wbr>/03/africa/internet-shutdown-<wbr>cameroon/</a></div><div><a href="https://qz.com/942879/an-internet-shutdown-in-cameroon-has-forced-startups-to-create-an-internet-refugee-camp-in-bonako-village/" target="_blank">https://qz.com/942879/an-inter<wbr>net-shutdown-in-cameroon-has-<wbr>forced-startups-to-create-an-<wbr>internet-refugee-camp-in-bonak<wbr>o-village/</a></div><div><a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-38895541" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.com/news/world-<wbr>africa-38895541</a></div><div><a href="http://africanarguments.org/2017/03/10/cameroon-sabotages-own-digital-economy-plan-with-internet-shutdown/" target="_blank">http://africanarguments.org/20<wbr>17/03/10/cameroon-sabotages-ow<wbr>n-digital-economy-plan-with-in<wbr>ternet-shutdown/</a></div><div><a href="http://www.africanews.com/2017/02/18/cameroon-internet-shutdown-costs-139m//" target="_blank">http://www.africanews.com/2017<wbr>/02/18/cameroon-internet-shutd<wbr>own-costs-139m//</a></div><div><a href="http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=21165&LangID=E" target="_blank">http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEv<wbr>ents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?<wbr>NewsID=21165&LangID=E</a></div><div><a href="http://www.africanews.com/2017/02/14/cameroon-must-urgently-free-the-internet-in-anglophone-regions-un-expert//" target="_blank">http://www.africanews.com/2017<wbr>/02/14/cameroon-must-urgently-<wbr>free-the-internet-in-anglophon<wbr>e-regions-un-expert//</a></div><div><a href="https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2017/01/cameroon-actively-blocking-internet-access-english-speaking-parts-country/" target="_blank">https://www.privateinternetacc<wbr>ess.com/blog/2017/01/cameroon-<wbr>actively-blocking-internet-acc<wbr>ess-english-speaking-parts-cou<wbr>ntry/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Bangladesh:</div><div><a href="https://advox.globalvoices.org/2016/08/05/bangladesh-shuts-down-the-internet-then-orders-blocking-of-35-news-websites/" target="_blank">https://advox.globalvoices.org<wbr>/2016/08/05/bangladesh-shuts-<wbr>down-the-internet-then-orders-<wbr>blocking-of-35-news-websites/</a></div><div><a href="http://www.gulf-times.com/story/519071/Internet-shutdowns-for-25-days-cost-Bangladesh-70m" target="_blank">http://www.gulf-times.com/stor<wbr>y/519071/Internet-shutdowns-<wbr>for-25-days-cost-Bangladesh-<wbr>70m</a></div><div><br></div><div>Turkey:</div><div><a href="https://turkeyblocks.org/2016/10/27/new-internet-shutdown-turkey-southeast-offline-diyarbakir-unrest/" target="_blank">https://turkeyblocks.org/2016/<wbr>10/27/new-internet-shutdown-tu<wbr>rkey-southeast-offline-diyarba<wbr>kir-unrest/</a></div><div><a href="https://turkeyblocks.org/2016/09/11/internet-shutdown-turkey-southeast/" target="_blank">https://turkeyblocks.org/2016/<wbr>09/11/internet-shutdown-turkey<wbr>-southeast/</a></div><div><a href="https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/27/turkey-internet-shutdown-kurdish-cities/" target="_blank">https://www.engadget.com/2016/<wbr>10/27/turkey-internet-shutdown<wbr>-kurdish-cities/</a></div><div><a href="http://www.salon.com/2016/11/03/turkey-shuts-down-social-media-detains-elected-lawmakers-from-leftist-pro-kurdish-party/" target="_blank">http://www.salon.com/2016/11/0<wbr>3/turkey-shuts-down-social-med<wbr>ia-detains-elected-lawmakers-<wbr>from-leftist-pro-kurdish-<wbr>party/</a></div><div><a href="http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/turkey-uses-emergency-decree-shut-down-internet-11-kurdish-cities-amid-widespread-protests-1588701" target="_blank">http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/turke<wbr>y-uses-emergency-decree-shut-<wbr>down-internet-11-kurdish-citie<wbr>s-amid-widespread-protests-<wbr>1588701</a></div><div><br></div><div>DRC:</div><div><a href="https://qz.com/864617/dr-congo-calls-for-social-media-networks-to-be-blocked-from-midnight-sunday-ahead-of-anti-kabila-protests/" target="_blank">https://qz.com/864617/dr-congo<wbr>-calls-for-social-media-networ<wbr>ks-to-be-blocked-from-midnight<wbr>-sunday-ahead-of-anti-kabila-<wbr>protests/</a></div><div><a href="https://www.accessnow.org/ways-circumvent-internet-shutdown-democratic-republic-congo/" target="_blank">https://www.accessnow.org/ways<wbr>-circumvent-internet-shutdown-<wbr>democratic-republic-congo/</a></div><div><a href="https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/12/drc-must-rescind-order-to-block-social-media-sites/" target="_blank">https://www.amnesty.org/en/lat<wbr>est/news/2016/12/drc-must-resc<wbr>ind-order-to-block-social-medi<wbr>a-sites/</a></div><div><a href="http://punchng.com/internet-shutdown-dr-congo-kabila-elongates-tenure-alarms-un/" target="_blank">http://punchng.com/internet-sh<wbr>utdown-dr-congo-kabila-elongat<wbr>es-tenure-alarms-un/</a></div><div><a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/congo-blocks-internet-access-amid-protests-against-president-kabila-1421938042" target="_blank">https://www.wsj.com/articles/c<wbr>ongo-blocks-internet-access-am<wbr>id-protests-against-president-<wbr>kabila-1421938042</a></div><div><a href="https://cpj.org/2015/01/drc-halts-internet-access-and-cellphone-services-a.php" target="_blank">https://cpj.org/2015/01/drc-ha<wbr>lts-internet-access-and-cellph<wbr>one-services-a.php</a></div><div><a href="http://www.africareview.com/news/DR-Congo-orders-social-networks-shut-as-Kabila-term-expires/979180-3487916-format-xhtml-mux74h/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.africareview.com/ne<wbr>ws/DR-Congo-orders-social-netw<wbr>orks-shut-as-Kabila-term-expir<wbr>es/979180-3487916-format-xhtml<wbr>-mux74h/index.html</a></div><div><a href="http://allafrica.com/stories/201612190934.html" target="_blank">http://allafrica.com/stories/2<wbr>01612190934.html</a></div><div><a href="http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=55827#.WO873FOGPnU" target="_blank">http://www.un.org/apps/news/st<wbr>ory.asp?NewsID=55827#.WO873FOG<wbr>PnU</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="m_-4092637998748471214elided-text"><div>On Apr 13, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Mukom Akong T. <<a href="mailto:mukom.tamon@gmail.com" target="_blank">mukom.tamon@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-4092637998748471214m_-3634797166033718982Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div><div class="m_-4092637998748471214elided-text"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">**no hats**<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 April 2017 at 11:56, Arnaud AMELINA <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com" target="_blank">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>Hmmm!</span> <span class="m_-4092637998748471214m_-3634797166033718982m_-4349822491652120999gmail-">Very
 bad observation, do you want to confirm us through this observation 
that Afrinic has no system of redundancy and did not foresee in the case
 just where the Internet was cut in Mauritius.</span> <span class="m_-4092637998748471214m_-3634797166033718982m_-4349822491652120999gmail-">It 
is dangerous that, I then call Afrinic technical staff to kindly from 
this day put himself in condition to set up a backup in case of this has not been 
done yet.</span></blockquote></div><br><br>- technical (infrastructure, server) redundancy  *is not equal to* human resource redundancy. </div><div class="gmail_extra">- infrastructure redundancy has HR redundancy as it's bottle neck</div><div class="gmail_extra">- no organization I know of has double of each staff in different countries for the purpose of redundancy. Reality is that in the event of a shutdown, even with technical redundancy -  capacity will be diminished. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><br></div>
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