<div dir="auto"><div>Hello ornela</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Honestly this could be a good thing to do yes the community will be under sanctions if afrinic revoke the national isp, but it will let the government to.think twice, in the case of Cameroon how could you explain that two entire region under the internet shutdown, and the government don't.care.</div><div dir="auto">Believe if afrinic can.revoke national isp in.Cameroon it will force them to react.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best regard </div><div dir="auto">Serge parfait goma</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 12 avr. 2017 9:12 PM, <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> a écrit :<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br>
<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>
<br>
To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>
<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a><br>
<br>
You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
<a href="mailto:rpd-owner@afrinic.net">rpd-owner@afrinic.net</a><br>
<br>
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
than "Re: Contents of RPD digest..."<br>
<br>
<br>
Today's Topics:<br>
<br>
1. Re: New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown<br>
(AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)" (Honest Ornella GANKPA)<br>
2. Re: New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown<br>
(AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)" (Badru Ntege)<br>
3. Re: New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown<br>
(AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)" (Bram Fudzulani)<br>
4. Re: New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown<br>
(AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)" (Badru Ntege)<br>
<br>
<br>
------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>----------<br>
<br>
Message: 1<br>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:58:34 +0100<br>
From: Honest Ornella GANKPA <<a href="mailto:honest1989@gmail.com">honest1989@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:sm%2Bafrinic@elandsys.com">sm+afrinic@elandsys.com</a><br>
Cc: rpd <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown<br>
(AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"<br>
Message-ID:<br>
<<a href="mailto:CAKZY-5aEGQvWXKsRz_T09f2iPBtL2nG_Rat7iBuV7Z%2BfgsXQ-w@mail.gmail.com">CAKZY-5aEGQvWXKsRz_<wbr>T09f2iPBtL2nG_Rat7iBuV7Z+<wbr>fgsXQ-w@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>
<br>
Hi SM,<br>
<br>
If Afrinic refuses to provide services and revoke ressources to our<br>
national ISP, it affects a large amount of Benin's internet users. Is that<br>
not punishing Benin's internet users community? It might not be the intent<br>
but has the same effect<br>
<br>
Empowering regulators and such might be a more suitable goal for Afrinic in<br>
my opinion<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Honest Ornella GANKPA<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2017-04-12 20:33 GMT+01:00 <<a href="mailto:sm%2Bafrinic@elandsys.com">sm+afrinic@elandsys.com</a>>:<br>
<br>
> Hi Honest,<br>
> At 11:09 12-04-2017, Honest Ornella GANKPA wrote:<br>
><br>
>> So in order to stop internet shutdowns by governments, AFRINIC (whose<br>
>> fundamental role is to promote Internet growth and penetration in Africa),<br>
>> will now further punish the same community it serves by shutting down ISP's<br>
>> and alienating the target governments?<br>
>><br>
>> How does that work? (genuine question)<br>
>><br>
><br>
> There isn't any text in the proposal about shutting down Internet Service<br>
> Providers in Africa.<br>
><br>
> There has been some comments on the thread about the role of Afrinic Ltd.<br>
> According to Afrinic Ltd, it is "responsible for the distribution and<br>
> management of Internet number resources" in this service region. There is<br>
> currently a policy discussion about the management of IP addresses which<br>
> have been allocated to government agencies. There was a comment from a<br>
> regulator in which it is mentioned that "The "Anti-Shutdown" Proposal is an<br>
> excellent start" [1]. I guess that the regulator may have understood that<br>
> it is not about punishing a community.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> S. Moonesamy<br>
><br>
> 1. <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2017/006528.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>pipermail/rpd/2017/006528.html</a><br>
><br>
-------------- next part --------------<br>
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>
URL: <<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/attachments/20170412/e4c1ad79/attachment-0001.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>pipermail/rpd/attachments/<wbr>20170412/e4c1ad79/attachment-<wbr>0001.html</a>><br>
<br>
------------------------------<br>
<br>
Message: 2<br>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 23:05:03 +0300<br>
From: Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za">mje@posix.co.za</a>>, <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown<br>
(AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:24EF0829-0209-46F2-A25F-34203709AA35@nftconsult.com">24EF0829-0209-46F2-A25F-<wbr>34203709AA35@nftconsult.com</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 4/12/17, 9:38 PM, "Mark Elkins" <<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za">mje@posix.co.za</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Not really. The Policy is intended to affect the people/departments/decision makers that are actually causing a shutdown to happen.<br>
<br>
But governments serve the populace and decisions are made by individuals. What impact will this policy make on a head of state or internal security organ of a totalitarian country.?? Who makes a unilateral decision ??<br>
<br>
i.e. - not Universities, Hospitals, Businesses or Joe Public.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
If the Government were also to suddenly change (Arab Spring style) then the ban would also presumably be immediately lifted.<br>
<br>
What right do we have to set the moral high ground ?? And who are we ??<br>
<br>
<br>
After all - what is the point of AFRINIC (whose fundamental role is to promote Internet growth and penetration in Africa) servicing governments who don't allow the people to have Internet service, or who keep switching it off.<br>
<br>
There are many ways of preventing internet access to the masses, starting with affordability ?? High taxes on internet services, and failure to provide the conducive environment. Which condition will you choose ??<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
ps. Can someone point me to an article or two that explains the reason why the anglophones have been denied Internet in the Cameroon.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-------------- next part --------------<br>
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>
URL: <<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/attachments/20170412/c6b02347/attachment-0001.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>pipermail/rpd/attachments/<wbr>20170412/c6b02347/attachment-<wbr>0001.html</a>><br>
<br>
------------------------------<br>
<br>
Message: 3<br>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 21:32:51 +0200<br>
From: Bram Fudzulani <<a href="mailto:bram.fudzulani@angledimension.com">bram.fudzulani@<wbr>angledimension.com</a>><br>
To: Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>><br>
Cc: rpd List <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown<br>
(AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:FE46D58E-A64F-47FC-AE6F-CFF01D79503F@angledimension.com">FE46D58E-A64F-47FC-AE6F-<wbr>CFF01D79503F@angledimension.<wbr>com</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br>
<br>
In as much as I am an advocate of internet for everyone, this policy has far reaching consequences on AFRINIC core values and objectives.<br>
<br>
On a side note any RIR currently pursuing the same policy? What are the lessons learned from those already having suh a policy in place? Otherwise imposing such policies on governments would be working against a multistakeholder model around internet governance.<br>
<br>
<br>
Best Regards<br>
Bram<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
> On 12 Apr 2017, at 3:08 PM, Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I think we might be over stepping our mandate.<br>
><br>
> As much as one might try to understand the intent.<br>
><br>
> AFRINIC IS NOT A POLICING BODY.<br>
> WE DISTRIBUTE NUMBER RESOURCES TO MEMBERS.<br>
><br>
> WE DEVELOP POLICIES TO HELP THE TECHNICAL OPERATION AND SUSTAINABILITY OF THE INTERNET.<br>
><br>
> Now one might fully agree with the intent of the authors but this policy would work well at the ITU, UN or even AU but not AFRINIC.<br>
><br>
> On a practical side it has too many subjective conditions. Each government has different policies and reasons why they do certain actions.<br>
><br>
> Who will be the judge ??<br>
><br>
> What legal protection does AFRINIC have from aggrieved third parties when they do enforce any part of 13.1. To a particular counrty and it causes financial loss to a business ??<br>
><br>
><br>
> In summary lets focus on our TECHNICAL mandate and leave the politics to the other international organisations.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> Badru<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>> On 4/11/17, 9:43 PM, "SamiSalih" <<a href="mailto:sami@ntc.gov.sd">sami@ntc.gov.sd</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Dear AFRINIC PDWG Members,<br>
>><br>
>> Greetings,<br>
>><br>
>> We have received a new policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"<br>
>><br>
>> From the following Authors:<br>
>> a) Andrew Alston ? Liquid Telecommunications - <a href="mailto:andrew.alston@liquidtelecom.com">andrew.alston@liquidtelecom.<wbr>com</a><br>
>> b) Ben Roberts ? Liquid Telecommunications - <a href="mailto:ben.roberts@liquidtelecom.com">ben.roberts@liquidtelecom.com</a><br>
>> c) Fiona Asonga ? TESPOK ? <a href="mailto:tespok@tespok.co.ke">tespok@tespok.co.ke</a><br>
>><br>
>> Published in this link<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2061-anti-shutdown-01" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/en/<wbr>community/policy-development/<wbr>policy-proposals/2061-anti-<wbr>shutdown-01</a><br>
>><br>
>> Best Regards,<br>
>><br>
>> PDWG Co-chairs<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>> RPD mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
>> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
> RPD mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
------------------------------<br>
<br>
Message: 4<br>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 23:12:20 +0300<br>
From: Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>><br>
To: Boubakar Barry <<a href="mailto:boubakarbarry@gmail.com">boubakarbarry@gmail.com</a>>, Mark Elkins<br>
<<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za">mje@posix.co.za</a>><br>
Cc: rpd <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown<br>
(AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:141283DD-E6CA-45DF-A57B-4CED17646851@nftconsult.com">141283DD-E6CA-45DF-A57B-<wbr>4CED17646851@nftconsult.com</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>
<br>
<br>
On 4/12/17, 10:24 PM, "Boubakar Barry" <<a href="mailto:boubakarbarry@gmail.com">boubakarbarry@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
AfriNIC acting as Internet police?<br>
<br>
Looks like as V4 runs out our sustainability plan is to find new roles as the internet police.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Let's be realistic and, most importantly, humble.<br>
<br>
AfriNIC issuing a statement on the discussed issue is one thing; trying to "punish" governments and all suspected accomplices is a completely different game.<br>
+1<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Boubakar<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Mark Elkins <<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za">mje@posix.co.za</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Not really. The Policy is intended to affect the people/departments/decision makers that are actually causing a shutdown to happen.<br>
i.e. - not Universities, Hospitals, Businesses or Joe Public.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
If the Government were also to suddenly change (Arab Spring style) then the ban would also presumably be immediately lifted.<br>
<br>
After all - what is the point of AFRINIC (whose fundamental role is to promote Internet growth and penetration in Africa) servicing governments who don't allow the people to have Internet service, or who keep switching it off.<br>
<br>
ps. Can someone point me to an article or two that explains the reason why the anglophones have been denied Internet in the Cameroon.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 12/04/2017 20:09, Honest Ornella GANKPA wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
+1 Maya<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
So in order to stop internet shutdowns by governments, AFRINIC (whose fundamental role is to promote Internet growth and penetration in Africa), will now further punish the same community it serves by shutting down ISP's and alienating the target governments?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
How does that work? (genuine question)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Honest Ornella GANKPA<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2017-04-12 9:46 GMT+01:00 Maye Diop <<a href="mailto:mayediop@gmail.com">mayediop@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<br>
<br>
Dear All,<br>
We all accept that this is a big issue and Even if AfGWG does not have any interference with policy, I would like to remind tthat one Objective of the Working Group is To strengthen the collaboration between AFRINIC and African Governments and Regulators to promote sustainable and secure Internet development in Africa.<br>
Putting in place a discriminatory policy for Government and privating a country of ressources will neither help to involve more government on AFRINIC activities to help them to better understand nor bring any change if they decided to take decisions to shutdown Internet.<br>
<br>
<br>
I'll vote for a dedicated high worklevel shop to raise this issue at regional level.<br>
<br>
Best Regards<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2017-04-12 5:28 GMT+00:00 Vymala <<a href="mailto:vymala@afrinic.net">vymala@afrinic.net</a>>:<br>
<br>
<br>
Hello Barrack<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
, i would be keen to understand whether the same has gone through the AFRINIC Government working group as Seun has indicated and their views on the same,<br>
<br>
<br>
As you know the Community draft Proposals and Policies and AFRINIC does not interfere in any case in the process.<br>
<br>
In this case the "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)? is addressing Internet Shutdown and concerns Governments.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
There is no policy or proposal that needs to be validated by the AFRINIC Government Working Group as the AfGWG is a closed and dedicated<br>
<br>
forum for Governments, Regulators and LEA?s to discuss on opportunities and challenges they are facing with regards to the Internet Development in Africa amongst other.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I hope this clear your question.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
<br>
vymala<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 12 Apr 2017, at 6:55 AM, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi colleagues,<br>
<br>
<br>
Interesting proposal, given the role of governments in our eco-system , i would be keen to understand whether the same has gone through the AFRINIC Government working group as Seun has indicated and their views on the same, i think we should endeavour to keep the Internet on at all costs, any punitive measure that can result in switching off the Internet or denying users access in any part of the world is not ideal in my humble opinion.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
On Apr 12, 2017 1:52 AM, "Keshwarsingh Nadan" <<a href="mailto:kn@millenium.net.mu">kn@millenium.net.mu</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Moonesawmy<br>
<br>
>In Section 1 of AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01, it is stated that "these<br>
>shutdowns have been shown to cause economic damage". Could you<br>
>please provide some data about the economic damage?<br>
<br>
I confine myself within bounds better suited to my own capacity, perhaps this could help?<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/intenet-shutdowns-v-3.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.brookings.edu/wp-<wbr>content/uploads/2016/10/<wbr>intenet-shutdowns-v-3.pdf</a><br>
<br>
>What is the meaning of "direct provable relationships" in Section 13.1?<br>
<br>
It is my belief that you should unsubscribe from this list since you were unable to understand the basic meaning of whatever you quoted above.<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
RPD mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
<br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
RPD mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
RPD mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
<br>
---------------------<br>
Mme Nd?ye Maimouna DIOP<br>
Sp?cialiste ICT4D<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
RPD mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
RPD mailing list<br>
RPD@afrinic.nethttps://<a href="http://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lists.<wbr>afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/<wbr>rpd</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa<br>
<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za">mje@posix.co.za</a> Tel: <a href="tel:%2B27.128070590" value="+27128070590">+27.128070590</a> Cell: <a href="tel:%2B27.826010496" value="+27826010496">+27.826010496</a><br>
For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: <a href="https://ftth.posix.co.za" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ftth.posix.co.za</a><br>
<br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
RPD mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
<br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________ RPD mailing list <a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
<br>
-------------- next part --------------<br>
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>
URL: <<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/attachments/20170412/c9edf1d3/attachment.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>pipermail/rpd/attachments/<wbr>20170412/c9edf1d3/attachment.<wbr>html</a>><br>
<br>
------------------------------<br>
<br>
Subject: Digest Footer<br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
RPD mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>
<br>
<br>
------------------------------<br>
<br>
End of RPD Digest, Vol 127, Issue 51<br>
******************************<wbr>******<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div>