<html><body><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14pt; color: #000000"><div>Dear Marcus,<br></div><div><br></div><div>First of all YES we really sure what we are trying to organize !<br></div><div>Second, Mark Elkins is on of the co-authors of many other proposals - as he claimed -, the one you particularly mention is not an active proposal for the time being<br></div><div>Third, as we stated we welcome any volunteer to contribute to solve the issues we addressed in our justifications to our call,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Please help us to focus only on ideas and proposals.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,<br></div><div><br></div><div><span name="x"></span>Dr. Sami Salih | Assistant Professor<br>Sudan University of Science and Technology<br>Eastern Dum, P.O Box 11111-407<br>email: sami.salih@sustech.edu<br>Mob: +249122045707 <span name="x"></span><br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey@hotmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"SamiSalih" <sami@ntc.gov.sd>, "rpd" <rpd@afrinic.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:19:25 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Report of the Soft Landing isuue<br><div><br></div><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" dir="ltr" data-mce-style="font-size: 12pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><p><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Co-chairs,</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">While reading your email, I am wondering whether you are really sure of what you are trying to organize. Have you considered the following points?</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">1 - Mark Elkins is one of the co-authors of the softlanding overhaul </p><p class="MsoNormal">2- The co-authors of the softlanding-bis proposal which is still in the PDWG track said ".... we are available for any further actions required from us" in their response to your 7 days call.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Some thoughts for reflection!!!</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Marcus</p><br><p><br></p></div><hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" data-mce-style="display: inline-block; width: 98%;"><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><span data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;" style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> SamiSalih <sami@ntc.gov.sd><br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 28, 2017 7:03:11 AM<br> <b>To:</b> rpd<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Report of the Soft Landing isuue</span><div> </div></div><div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14pt; color: #000000" data-mce-style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"><div><div>Dear PDWG,</div><div><br></div><div>We appreciate your active discussion regarding the soft landing policy.</div><div><br></div><div>This is to declare the end of the Seven Days comment period on developing a common proposal according to the points commonly agreed before whether in the RPD or at PPMs.</div><div><br></div><div>So far we have Mark Elkins and Arsène Tungali as the only volunteers. We hope they can edit the commonly agreed view in a new policy update proposal document and work with other community members including authors of previous proposals that wish to lend their experience.</div><div><br></div>Best Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>PDWG Co-Chairs<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Honest Ornella GANKPA" <honest1989@gmail.com><br> <b>To: </b>"Dewole Ajao" <dewole@forum.org.ng><br> <b>Cc: </b>"rpd" <rpd@afrinic.net><br> <b>Sent: </b>Monday, March 27, 2017 4:49:22 PM<br> <b>Subject: </b>Re: [rpd] Report of the Soft Landing isuue<br><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hello Dewole<div><br></div><div>It has been suggested to take the points which have consensus on the wide variety and get an editor to come up with a new version if we really do not want the current authors to do it.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Honest Ornella GANKPA<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-03-27 8:52 GMT+01:00 Dewole Ajao <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng">dewole@forum.org.ng</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="auto"><div>The proposal "already in the PDP" (as you put it) deals with a wide variety of areas. That collection of areas has not found consensus. If the authors choose to whittle the proposal down to those areas that the community largely agrees on, the co-chairs would not need to point out areas that volunteers can adopt and put forward. </div><div id="m_4982999129498417818AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_4982999129498417818AppleMailSignature">Although proposals (once submitted to the RPD list) are supposed to be owned by the community and not the authors, the current definition/implementation of the AFRINIC PDP does not promote that enough. I stand to be corrected but I think that is why we find ourselves in this logjam today. </div><div id="m_4982999129498417818AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_4982999129498417818AppleMailSignature">The submission presented by co-chairs a week ago was to allow a chance to do things the collaborative way. A chance to disconnect from whatever sentiments exist and tackle policy issues (which is why we are here). </div><div id="m_4982999129498417818AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_4982999129498417818AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color:" data-mce-style="">I fail to see what makes you think the co-chairs are focusing on authors rather than policy. </span><span class="HOEnZb"><span class="HOEnZb"><span style="color: #888888;" data-mce-style="color: #888888;"><br> </span></span></span><div><br></div><span class="HOEnZb"><span style="color: #888888;" data-mce-style="color: #888888;">Dewole. </span></span></div><div id="m_4982999129498417818AppleMailSignature"><br> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse typos and autocorrect strangeness. </div><div><div class="h5"><div><br> On 26 Mar 2017, at 8:52 PM, Honest Ornella GANKPA <<a href="mailto:honest1989@gmail.com" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:honest1989@gmail.com">honest1989@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><div><br></div></div><blockquote><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_4982999129498417818gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi Dewole,<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><i>2017-03-26 18:37 GMT+01:00 Dewole Ajao <span dir="ltr"> <<a href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng">dewole@forum.org.ng</a>></span>:<br> </i><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><p><i>There is more to benefit from collaborating on a single draft rather than spewing out multiple proposals. </i></p></div></blockquote><div>Agreed! So why are you asking for new proposals when there is already one in PDP. Co-chairs need to focus on policy not authors.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><div> Honest Ornella GANKPA</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><br> _______________________________________________<br> RPD mailing list<br> RPD@afrinic.net<br> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></body></html>