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<p>Thanks for contributing, Mark.<br>
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<p>May we interpret your email below to mean that you have
volunteered to draft a policy proposal (update) to do the
following?<br>
* Ensure that "new entrants into the world of internet addresses"
are able to get some limited but crucial IPv4 resources for a
while longer into the future. <br>
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While we look forward to more contributions from the community, I'd
like to clarify that any updates being volunteered are to the
ratified policy/policies that are about to take effect when
soft-landing is reached (not the BIS or Overhaul proposals).
"Letting the proposals die" as has been suggested in a previous
email is a moot point. <br>
<br>
Please keep the contributions coming, everyone.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Dewole.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/03/2017 21:46, Mark Elkins wrote:<br>
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<p>That's a bit sad.</p>
<p>I've been involved in a number of proposals, both some
successful (IPv6 /48, AnyCast) and some not (Inter-regional
Transfer - which I withdrew). I believe that there is a need to
re-address some parts of the Soft Landing Proposal and I'm
thick-skinned enough to give this a try.</p>
<p> I believe that proposals since the Soft landing proposal was
first proposed (and that wasn't a quick task) along with what
has been learned by watching other regions and by some of our
own proposals will allow our community to better shape the Soft
Landing Proposal to something that will allow some limited but
crucial IPv4 resources to last a fare bit longer into the future
for new entrants into this world of Internet Addresses.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/03/2017 22:08, Arsène Tungali
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<div>Hi everyone.<br>
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<div>Though we still have 3 days to go (out of the 7
suggested by the Co-chairs to hear from the community on
their suggestion),<br>
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As a newbie in the PDP process, I have the impression that
we (community) will not be able to move ahead with this
work as per the wonderful suggestion by co-chairs. If this
wonderful idea was supported by the community, there
should have been someone to take the lead (already).<br>
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In my opinion, since no one from the community has stepped
in to work on a merged policy, I would suggest co-chairs
to just leave this and declare it a dead proposal. There
is no interest in working on a merged proposal given that
original authors were not able to come together and
produce something as we all agreed in Mauritius. This is
frustrating and I hope we take lessons from this
experience for the future.<br>
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*<b>Arsène
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Dear Community<br>
<br>
We thank the co-chairs for the efforts put in managing the
soft landing update’s process incepted by the 2 policy
proposals. We also thank the community for the intensive
discussions and contributions.<br>
<br>
We have contributed to the post-Mauritius initiative from
the co-chairs on this update to the softlanding and remain
available for any further actions required from us.<br>
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We still believe that amending certain aspects of the
current soft landing policy adopted in 2011, is a good
thing to do, despite the time wasted and the fact that
AFRINIC v4 pool showing 1.077 /8 available, which means
the soft landing may be triggered anytime soon.<br>
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We hope that the community has learnt a lot from this
process and consider the main lesson here to be, the
fundamental principle of policies/standards' development,
which is that when a proposal is on the table to address
an issue and has been accepted for discussion, it becomes
community's document, aiming to be improved by the
community up to adoption, rejection or withdrawal.<br>
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Thanks<br>
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Softlanding-bis Co-authors<br>
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> On Mar 20, 2017, at 10:24 PM, SamiSalih <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sami@ntc.gov.sd">sami@ntc.gov.sd</a>>
wrote:<br>
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> Dear AfriNIC Community,<br>
> Greetings from the PDWG Co-chairs,<br>
><br>
> Many of you may have followed the proceedings of
the two conflicting proposals addressing IPv4
exhaustion.<br>
><br>
> At the last meeting in Mauritius, authors of both
IPv4 run-out management proposals agreed to consider
working together to develop an improved proposal.<br>
> We regret to inform you that despite several
efforts, both groups of authors were unable to
collaborate towards a joint solution.<br>
><br>
> As that process is deadlocked, the co-chairs have
put together some of the major points in discussions
raised over multiple meetings and mailing list
discussions. Because the community has made many valid
observations on improvements that could be made to the
status quo, we hereby suggest that these be assessed
by the community with a view to presenting a proposal
that better manages the exhaustion of IPv4 resources.<br>
><br>
> Some examples of recommended improvements include
consideration for new entrants, IPv6 transition
provisions, and repurposing of reserves for the
"unforeseen".<br>
><br>
> To avoid entering a loop similar to what we
recently encountered, there is a need to concentrate
our efforts on a joint solution. Can we discuss and
let the co-chairs assist with the draft of a proposal
that contains only areas that have rough consensus?<br>
><br>
> If there are areas on which consensus cannot be
reasonably reached, those can be left out of the
policy update proposal. Although the resulting
proposal may be treated under the emergency provisions
of the PDP due to time sensitivity of the subject
matter, the ideal situation would be for the draft
update to be received before the next PPM.<br>
><br>
> Although the PDP does not expressly require the
above, we trust that all community members will be
reasonable and work together constructively rather
than seek to frustrate any efforts that do not align
with their viewpoints.<br>
><br>
> The extracts from discussions till date are at <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://goo.gl/AWCCWd"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://goo.gl/AWCCWd</a>
and we would like to receive feedback and suggestions
from the community<br>
> over the next 7 days.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> AfiNIC PDP Co-chairs<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Dr. Sami Salih | Assistant Professor<br>
> Sudan University of Science and Technology<br>
> Eastern Dum, P.O Box 11111-407<br>
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