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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">English version below<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Bonjour à tous,<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">En tant qu’auteur de la policy prop-118 à APNIC, je
souhaiterais informer la communauté d’AFRINIC de se sujet qui pourrais aussi
devenir pertinent dans cette région: <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)"><a href="https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-118/" target="_blank"><span lang="FR">https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-118/</span></a><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Le concept et le texte ne sont pas originalement de
moi, la policy de « no need » ( sans besoin) vient de la </span><span style="font-size:12.6667px">premi</span><span style="font-size:12.6667px">è</span><span style="font-size:12.6667px">re </span><span style="font-size:9.5pt">discussion de</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"> transfert
policy à APNIC, le concept a été abandonné lorsque ARIN a introduit sa policy
de transfert inter-RIR, puisque ARIN ne peut que transférer à un registre avec
une « need base policy ».</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">La communauté de RIPE a aimé l'idée et a introduit
le concept du « no need » avec une petite exception pour pouvoir rester
compatible avec ARIN.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">La proposition de prop-118 a reçue beaucoup de
soutien à la fois dans la salle et dans la mailing liste, avec une seule
objection forte, mais en raison d'un problème avec le logiciel de participation
à distance d'APNIC, les chairs ont décidé que je devrais retourner sur la liste
pour recueillir plus de commentaires et surtout présenter à nouveau à la
prochaine réunion APNIC.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">La présentation et le processus de consensus
peuvent être trouvés ici :</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://youtu.be/ngM0Ni9ZNM4?t=40m8s" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/ngM0Ni9ZNM4?t=40m8s</a><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Le support de la communauté dans la mailing list
peut être trouvé ici :<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><a href="http://mailman.apnic.net/mailing-lists/sig-policy/archive/2017/02/subject.html" target="_blank"><span lang="FR">http://mailman.apnic.net/mailing-lists/sig-policy/archive/2017/02/subject.html</span></a></span><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">L'AFRINIC étant en train d'introduire une policy de
transferts, nous pourrions aussi bénéficier d’une policy de « no need »
pour simplifier l'évaluation des transferts dans cette région.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Nous sommes dans une phase beaucoup plus précoces
pour la communauté AFRINIC, et je pense que l’on pourrait générer un peu de
discussion avant de voir comment une policy pourrait être faite pour cette région.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Hello everyone,<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">As the author of policy prop-118 to APNIC, I would like to inform the
AFRINIC community of a topic that could also become relevant in this region
too:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><a href="https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-118/" target="_blank" style="font-size:9.5pt"><span lang="FR">https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-118/</span></a><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><br></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">The concept and the text are not originally mine, the no need policy
comes from the discussion of the first transfer policy at APNIC, the concept
was abandoned when ARIN introduced its policy of inter-RIR transfer, since ARIN
can only transfer to a registry with a "need base policy".<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">The RIPE community liked the idea and introduced the concept of "no
need" with a small exception to be able to stay compatible with ARIN.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Prop-118 received a lot of support both in the room and in the mailing
list, with only one strong objection, but due to a problem with APNIC's remote
participation software, the chairs decided that I should go back on the list to
gather more comments and especially present it again at the next APNIC meeting.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">The presentation and the consensus process can be found here:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><a href="https://youtu.be/ngM0Ni9ZNM4?t=40m8s" target="_blank" style="font-size:9.5pt">ttps://youtu.be/ngM0Ni9ZNM4?t=40m8s</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">The support of the community in the mailing list can be found here:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><a href="http://mailman.apnic.net/mailing-lists/sig-policy/archive/2017/02/subject.html" target="_blank" style="font-size:9.5pt">http://mailman.apnic.net/mailing-lists/sig-policy/archive/2017/02/subject.html</a></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><br></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">As AFRINIC is introducing a transfer policy, we could also benefit from
a no need policy to simplify the evaluation of transfers in this region.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">We are in a much earlier phase in the AFRINIC community, and I think we
could generate some discussion before making an actual policy proposal.</span><span></span></p></div><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><p><span style="font-size:15pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(247,117,31)" lang="EN-US">David Hilario<span></span></span></p>
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