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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Dear <font
face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Andrew and all,<br>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I would like <font
face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">to</font> clarify that <font
face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">t<font face="Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif">h<font face="Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif">e</font> statement at the <font
face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">A<font
face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">frinic <font
face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">meeting</font></font></font>
was based on <b>current</b> RIPE policies and procedur<font
face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">es. There is of
course the possibility that there will be changes in the
fut<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">ure that
will affect compatib<font face="Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif">ility of the policies</font>.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Ingrid Wijte<br>
<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">RIPE NCC</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/01/2017 09:55, Andrew Alston
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:AMSPR03MB534C70AE706BADEBB15EB7FEE790@AMSPR03MB534.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com"
type="cite">RIPE has already stated clearly at the meeting that
they will allow such transfers, it's on the video transcript<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jackson Muthili [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com">mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com</a>] <br>
Sent: 12 January 2017 09:15<br>
To: Owen DeLong <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:owen@delong.com"><owen@delong.com></a><br>
Cc: rpd Discussion List <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net"><rpd@afrinic.net></a><br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Inbound Policy<br>
<br>
Can ARIN, RIPE, APNIC provide formal clear statement to AfriNIC
community on this?<br>
<br>
Can 1 way transfer be possible from your registry to AfriNIC after
passing of this policy? If not the conversation is waste of
community time.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Owen DeLong
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:owen@delong.com"><owen@delong.com></a> wrote:<br>
> As I understand it, ARIN allows transfers to APNIC because
APNIC has a compatible reciprocal policy.<br>
><br>
> ARIN does not, to my knowledge, allow transfers between ARIN
and VNNIC or CNNIC.<br>
><br>
> While it may be true that resources can be transferred
ARIN->APNIC->{VNNIC,CNNIC}, I’ll note that there’s really
little ARIN can do to with regards to policies about how APNIC
interacts with other registries or subregistries. That is a matter
for the APNIC policy community.<br>
><br>
> Transfers are possible in both directions between ARIN and
APNIC as well as between ARIN and RIPE.<br>
><br>
> Owen<br>
><br>
>> On Jan 11, 2017, at 03:17 , <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:fransossen@yahoo.com">fransossen@yahoo.com</a>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Hi All,<br>
>><br>
>> On Saturday, December 31, 2016 1:01 PM, Hytham El-Nakhal
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hytham@tra.gov.eg"><hytham@tra.gov.eg></a> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> I'd like to ask authors to, in addition to the staff
and legal <br>
>>> assessment & comments on the policy proposal,
address the comments <br>
>>> of other RIRs at the end of the policy proposal
page:> <br>
>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-propos"
target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-propos</a><br>
>>> als/1803-inbound-transfer-policy under the header of
"Tentative <br>
>>> Assessment from other RIRs".<br>
>><br>
>> I am really curious for the reasoning behind the other
RIR's statement that they would not be able to do a transfer to
AFRINIC without reciprocity.<br>
>><br>
>> * Tentative Assessment from other RIRs is indicative of
the following:<br>
>> * ARIN - cannot implement - need reciprocal<br>
>> * RIPE - may (or may not) implement - yet to advise on
details and requirements.<br>
>> * LACNIC - Not applicable as no Inter RIR transfer policy<br>
>><br>
>> * APNIC - cannot implement - need reciprocity.<br>
>><br>
>> APNIC is partially in that very same situation with some
of their NIRs not allowing transfers out of their registry:<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.apnic.net/manage-ip/manage-resources/transfer-resources/n"
target="_blank">https://www.apnic.net/manage-ip/manage-resources/transfer-resources/n</a><br>
>> ir-ipv4-transfer<br>
>><br>
>> NIR Incoming Outgoing Pre-Approval<br>
>> VNNIC Yes No By request<br>
>> CNNIC Yes No By request<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I find it a very strange statement from APNIC and ARIN to
say they would not allow one way transfer to AFRINIC when they
allow transfers at the moment to one way sub-registries within
APNIC region.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> David Hilario<br>
>><br>
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