<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 4 Jan 2017, at 13:08, ARTHUR CARINDAL <<a href="mailto:arthur@afrinic.net" class="">arthur@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">On 4 Jan 2017, at 13:23, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" class="">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Nishal Goburdhan<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:nishal@controlfreak.co.za" target="_blank" class="">nishal@controlfreak.co.za</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><span class=""><br class="">> On 29 Dec 2016, at 16:27, SamiSalih <<a href="mailto:sami@ntc.gov.sd" class="">sami@ntc.gov.sd</a>> wrote:<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> Sorry,<br class="">> the correct link is<br class="">><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/1969-ipv4-resources-transfer-within-the-afrinic-region" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://afrinic.net/en/<wbr class="">community/policy-development/<wbr class="">policy-proposals/1969-ipv4-<wbr class="">resources-transfer-within-the-<wbr class="">afrinic-region</a><br class=""></span><br class="">i *don’t* understand how an existing member can transfer resources though, especially if this was obtained from afrinic, since the RSA is quite clear, that any afrinic member is meant to surrender their resources back to afrinic if they are not in use. from my original message:<br class="">"so i went to the RSA, and found under section 4.c.(iv):<br class="">“(iv) Hereby binds itself to:<br class="">(1) notify AFRINIC whenever its circumstances so change that it is no longer in need of the Internet number resources supplied or being supplied to it under a Registration Service Agreement;<br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">SO: If I recall correctly, this concern was raised during the last PPM and yes if the policy passes last call, my personal view is that its expected that the RSA will be updated to be in sync accordingly.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">The Art 6.d of the RSA stipulates the following</div><div class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(238, 238, 238);">(d) Acknowledges : </span><br class="" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif;"></div><blockquote class="" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(238, 238, 238);">(i) that this agreement shall at all times be subjected to policies adopted and to be adopted by the AFRINIC Internet Community; </span></div><div class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(238, 238, 238);">(ii) that this agreement shall at all times be subjected to such global policies, adopted and to be adopted by all RIRs ,which have first been approved by the AFRINIC Internet Community through its policy development process;</span></div></blockquote><br class=""><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class="">It implies that if the community adopts a policy (which is its fundamental right), the RSA as it is currently shall be amended or reviewed accordingly. Therefore if the " IPv4 Resource transfer within the AFRINIC Region” is adopted, some Articles or sections in this RSA shall be changed in order to reflect the need and the point of view of the community at the time this policy was written and adopted.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Arthur C.</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>IANAL either but I don’t read “subjected to” as meaning the RSA needs to be amended or reviewed. Rather that the RSA is dependent or conditional on AFRINIC policies and global policies that have gone through our PDP. </div><br class=""><div class="">
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