<div dir="ltr">Hi Mark,<div><br></div><div>I'm not particularly opposed to any single part of your proposal.</div><div><br></div><div>If there is an overwhelming urge to modify soft-landing,this may be a way forward.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>McTim</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:52 AM, Mark Elkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" target="_blank">mje@posix.co.za</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 07/12/2016 02:49, <a href="mailto:sm%2Bafrinic@elandsys.com">sm+afrinic@elandsys.com</a> wrote:<br>
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> I have simplified the following; I have also not considered some<br>
> of the input to the discussions: There has been input from two<br>
> "internet service providers" only. Given that there is only 1.38<br>
> IPv4 /8 available, can a decision which will affect the entire.<br>
> service region be taken?<br>
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I've been looking at the current Soft Landing proposal - the one that is<br>
in existence and the one that I contributed a little bit to (thanks<br>
Douglas!).<br>
<br>
Essentially:-<br>
<br>
Phase 1:<br>
When we hit the last /8, Phase 1 reduces the max size of an<br>
allocation/assignment from /10 to /13. It also carves off a /12 for<br>
unforeseen use. This continues until we have a /11 left.<br>
This will allow for 7 x /11's and a /12 - if people choose the largest<br>
possible sizes. This will still take a while to go through.<br>
<br>
Phase 2:<br>
Allow people to get up to a /22. People can come back multiple times.<br>
There are 2048 of these /22 blocks available. This would take a while to<br>
burn through, simply because the process is a bit slow.<br>
<br>
Then we are finished.<br>
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However - the Unforeseen /12 could still be used.<br>
We already have reserves for IXP's and Critical infrastructure.<br>
<br>
I'd like to see a revision that there is then a Phase 3:<br>
<br>
That the /12 can be given out in /22's (there are 1024 of these) but<br>
only to people with a total of less than a /21 (including what they ask<br>
for). ie - New people could come back once. This I believe will last<br>
multiple years.<br>
<br>
I don't believe we need any further reserves.<br>
<br>
We only need to last another two or three years.<br>
<br>
Lastly - any addresses from Phase 2 or 3 can never be transferred, (M&A<br>
included) and must be returned to AFRINIC for re-deployment.<br>
<br>
Thoughts?<br>
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