<div dir="ltr">Hi Everyone:<div><br></div><div><div>Seun, one thing he was right, we does had an incident:) Cloud Innovation had its IP hijacked, more than half a million, this year, Me, as the CEO of the group of companies, made an public presentation about the case, and had a though out discussion both in RIPE community as well as Afrinic community.</div><div><br></div><div>Here is the presentation:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://ripe72.ripe.net/archives/video/203/">https://ripe72.ripe.net/archives/video/203/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>And below is some feedback we received from RIPE community:</div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Dear Lu Heng,</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Here is the </span><span class="gmail-il" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">feedback</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"> for your </span><span class="gmail-il" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">presentation</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"> 'Invisibly Hijacking',</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Content rating: 8.2 out of 10.0 (with 73 submissions)</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><span class="gmail-il" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Presentation</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"> style: 7.0 out of 10.0 (with 73 submissions)</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Comments:</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">- Very interesting and </span><span class="gmail-il" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">presentation</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">, appreciated the insight into this kind of problems. Not so great English from presenter, but that can of course be understood. More like this please!</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">- very niceeee more of this!!!!!</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">- SUPER INTERESTING!</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">- Probably too heavy for just lightning talk.</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">- Thanks for sharing your experience.</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Kind regards,</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">XXXXXX</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">on behalf of the </span><span class="gmail-il" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">RIPE</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"> Programme Committee</span><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Same presentation was shared with Afrinic community as well this year:</span></div><div><br></div><div>In which you can find minutes here: <a href="https://internetsummitafrica.org/2016-05-07">https://internetsummitafrica.org/2016-05-07</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size:12.8px">You see, this is how things get the right attention without bothering people in the wrong place, if you think the abuse case you are facing are unique in technical nature, than share it in an technical conference, policy mailing list are for policy only.</span></font></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size:12.8px">I hope above clarify things, our company has the most strict policy towards not only spam, but Emailing service in General, aside from few of our own mail servers, we do not operate any Email related service, even though we operate rather large prefix, our blacklist rate are lowest amount most similar size ISPs.</span></font></div><div><br></div><div>We stay committed to help African community's future growth as well as zero abuse on Afrinic's precise resource.</div><div><div><br></div><div>Hope above helps.</div><div><br></div><div>With regards.</div><div><br></div><div>Lu</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 November 2016 at 16:38, Omo Oaiya <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net" target="_blank">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
> On 18 Nov 2016, at 09:14, Alan Barrett <<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net">alan.barrett@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On 18 Nov 2016, at 11:28, Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I do -not- suggest taking back any legacy resources from any legal entity<br>
>> or rightful successor in law where said entity or at least some rightful<br>
>> succssor in law can be located with modest but reasonable due diligence.<br>
>> But neither do I think it a wise practice to bury the dead with all of<br>
>> their Krugerrands, e.g. out of some deranged and misplaced sense of duty<br>
>> to their departed spirits.<br>
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> I will initiate an effort to contact legacy resource holders whose space is registered in the AFRINCI database, and verify or update their contact details. I don’t know what can be done if the original resource holder has disappeared leaving the space abandoned.<br>
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</span>What is clearly evident is that a review/audit policy is sorely needed. I don’t know about Mauritius but abandoned property is generally subject to finders keepers rules or a variation. I can see no better keeper than the RIR. Perhaps we seek legal advice on this as you try to contact these resource holders.<br>
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I am not condoning but couldn’t help noticing the varied response to Ronald Guilmette’s breach of conduct. If the authors of the proposed policy got as much varied feedback, it would help to make sure the policy fulfils the requirements rather than the distractions with inconsequential fear-mongering posts about witch hunts etc.<br>
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-Omo<br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>--<br>Kind regards.<br>Lu<br><br></div></div></div>
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