<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><p class="gmail-p1">It lists fixing the following issues amongst others as incentive:</p><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><ol class=""><li class="">the case of PDP moderators inability to attend public policy meetings<br class=""></li><li class="">the lack of appeal mechanisms against moderators actions<br class=""></li><li class=""> issues fixed on mailing list being reopened at face to face meetings weakening the decision making process. <br class=""></li><li class="">consensus building process leading to scenario where opinions expressed at face to face have more weight that the ones expressed on mailing list</li></ol><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="gmail-p1">While the new PDP succeeded in addressing #1 and #2, it has not addressed #3 and #4.</p><p class="gmail-p1">- How do we fix issues #3 and #4? </p></div></blockquote>I am not convinced that #3 remains an issue. I’m don’t accept your premise that additional fixing is needed here.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Likewise, it’s not clear to me that #4 is actually occurring. I have not seen anything that goes substantially against the mailing list opinion go to last call. If you believe this has occurred, please cite an example.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><p class="gmail-p1">- Will the proposals returned to the list be presented in AFRINIC-25? if yes, what will be the discussion points be and for which expected outcomes?</p></div></blockquote>If the process is working, wouldn’t that necessarily depend on the outcome of the discussion on the list? While it should be possible to answer the first portion of your question (and as I understand the process, the answer must surely be “Yes, unless the authors withdraw them”), the answer to the latter half almost certainly cannot yet be determined without undermining the process.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div></body></html>