<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">+1 I am inclined to join the chorus here instead of nodding silently. The history refresher is good but it should not have been necessary. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The discussion on powers that minimises the role of the community in favour of the board and members is a symptom of dysfunction and should be addressed. If the current corporate structure imposes legal obstacles to the satisfaction of community needs, we should change it. No better time than now ….along with the bylaws.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 8 Jul 2016, at 08:18, Neriah Sossou <<a href="mailto:neriah.sossou@gmail.com" class="">neriah.sossou@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">+1 Alain.<br class="">We truly seem to have forgotten our roots and the battles that were fought by our elders up until this point.<br class="">Let us continue building on what we inherited instead of constantly destroying and rebuilding.<br class="">Neriah<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 7 Jul 2016, at 21:27, ALAIN AINA <<a href="mailto:aalain@trstech.net" class="">aalain@trstech.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hello SM<br class=""><br class="">I beg. Lets stop this discussion about to whom AFRINIC belong to, playing with “members" and "non members", invoking RSA and AFRINIC Ltd, etc…. <br class="">We have come a long way to this community driven organisation which role is to serve the AFRICAN Internet community by distributing numbers ressources and beyond. Like other RIRs, the AfriNIC organisational structure has been set to encourage a bottom-up self governance management model in which community in general, members, the Board of Directors elected by these members have a role and a say.<br class=""><br class="">I would invite all of us to read :<br class=""><br class="">- The 1997 AFRINIC proposal<br class=""><a href="https://www.isoc.org/inet97/ans97/afrinic.htm" class="">https://www.isoc.org/inet97/ans97/afrinic.htm</a><br class=""><br class="">- The IANA report on AFRNIC accreditation <br class="">https://www.iana.org/reports/2005/afrinic-report-08apr2005.html<br class=""><br class="">- AFRINIC vision, mission, cores values and success factors <br class="">http://www.afrinic.net/en/about/origins<br class=""><br class="">I would also suggest that we plan a session on AFRINIC History during AFRINC-25 like we had AF* history at AIS2016<br class=""><br class="">Hope this helps<br class=""><br class="">—Alain<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Jul 7, 2016, at 3:55 PM, sm+afrinic@elandsys.com wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hi Noah, Badru,<br class="">At 09:22 06-07-2016, Noah wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Who elects the directors, do they elect themselves?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">The directors of Afrinic Ltd are elected by the members of Afrinic Ltd.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Whose interests do they serve?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">One of the powers of the directors of the company is to "determine the guidelines for the allocation of address space to members in line with the member driven Policy Development Process".<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">What where they before they became directors?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">The directors were members of the company.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Are they now so special now all over sudden and cant consult the same community "resource members + non" who elected them? [1]<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">The "non" (in the above) does not elect the directors. Section 6(d) of the RSA states that the members of Afrinic Ltd will follow the policies adopted by this group and follow global policies. Membership fees, for example, are not set through policies which are adopted by this group. Membership fees is usually a matter discussed between the members who pay those fees. A member usually does not vote for a director if the member is dissatisfied with the decisions taken by the director. That is the accountability angle.<br class=""><br class="">At 00:07 07-07-2016, Badru Ntege wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">The company belongs to the community at large under the custody of current members who then elect a board. It should never be seen as a top down issue.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">If the company belongs to this group there would be a document about that. The only "agreement" up to now is the one where the company agrees that its members will follow the policies adopted by this group. There is a discussion about that in the mailing list archives.<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">S. 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