<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 21, 2016, at 9:09 PM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 21, 2016, at 09:29 , Omo Oaiya <<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net" class="">Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 June 2016 at 17:35, Owen DeLong <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank" class="">owen@delong.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1.<span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>You must take this free IPv6 in order to get more IPv4.</div><div class="">2.<span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>Here’s your IPv4, by the way, would you also like some free IPv6 to go with that? (current practice)</div><div class="">3.<span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>If you ask for IPv6, we’ll give it to you for free.</div></blockquote></div><br class="">Owen,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">I understand the discussion on #1 somewhat differently. It is one of 2 options</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">- If you are a newcomer or existing user without v6 you should show v6 plans to get v4 </div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_extra">- If you are existing with v6, you should show acceptable utilisation as per current policies to get more of any</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Omo</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><a href="http:/" target="_blank" class=""></a></div></div></div></div>
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</div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">Omo,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What you describe is more along the lines of 2 IMHO than 1.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One of the proposals has been stated as “Do not allocate IPv4 unless they also have received an IPv6 allocation.”</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/1625-soft-landing-bis-draft-02-" class="">http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/1625-soft-landing-bis-draft-02-</a> section 3.8</div><div><br class=""></div><div>======</div>LIR and End users requesting IPv4 must have IPv6 resources from AFRINIC
(or request concomitantly with the IPv4) or from their upstreams.</div><div>=====</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>And IPv6 allocation policy said :</div><div><strong class="">======</strong></div><div><p class=""><strong class="">6.1. Initial allocation</strong></p><p class=""><strong class="">6.1.1. Initial allocation criteria</strong></p><p style="text-align: justify;" class="">To qualify for an initial allocation of IPv6 address space, an organization must:</p><p style="text-align: justify;" class="">a) be an LIR;</p><p style="text-align: justify;" class="">b) not be an end site;</p><p style="text-align: justify;" class="">c) show a detailed plan to provide IPv6 connectivity to organizations in the AFRINIC region.</p><p style="text-align: justify;" class="">d) show a reasonable plan for making /48 IPv6 assignments to end sites in the AFRINIC region within twelve months.</p><p class=""><strong class="">6.1.2. Initial allocation size</strong></p><p style="text-align: justify;" class="">Organizations that meet the initial allocation criteria are eligible to receive a minimum allocation of /32.</p><p style="text-align: justify;" class="">Organizations may qualify for an initial
allocation greater than /32 by submitting documentation that reasonably
justifies the request. If so, the allocation size will be based on the
number of existing users and the extent of the organization's
infrastructure.</p></div><div>=======</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Hope we read the criteria for end-sites assignment at: <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/132-afpub-2007-v6-001" class="">http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/132-afpub-2007-v6-001</a></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Send a request for v6, meet the criteria and get v6 allocation/assignment before you qualify to get v4 from the last /8</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>—Alain</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I suppose arguably your proposal could be a 4th category, but I don’t recall it being discussed previously.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">RPD mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" class="">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>