<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hello,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 20, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Fabian Jr <<a href="mailto:afabbie@hotmail.com" class="">afabbie@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class="">Alain what do you mean by making IPv6 Optional for new comers ? i thought IPv6 to be a MUST for new comers/applicants !<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Yes, that the provision we have in the policy proposal, but based on what we heard on this list about new comers which would only need IPv4*, i was trying to get a common ground for all, so we can move on.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>[*] i am still convinced that no one shall get IPv4 from the the last /8 without showing IPv6 and will remain to it if we can get a rough consensus on it, which i think is possible. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br class=""></div><div>—Alain</div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <br class=""> <br class=""><em class=""><font color="#1f497d" face="Comic Sans MS" class="">Arbogast Fabian,</font></em><br class=""><em class=""><font color="#1f497d" face="Comic Sans MS" class="">cell:+255-78-447-8387</font></em><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class="">> From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:aalain@trstech.net" class="">aalain@trstech.net</a><br class="">> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:33:47 +0400<br class="">> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br class="">> Subject: Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Hello,<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> We will make the IPv6 requirement optional for new comers.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> —Alain<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Nishal Goburdhan <<a href="mailto:nishal@controlfreak.co.za" class="">nishal@controlfreak.co.za</a>> wrote:<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > On 18 Jun 2016, at 16:20, ALAIN AINA wrote:<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> >> That is exactly what we are doing. Update the soft landing policy to meet the goal of using the 102/8 to encourage IPv6 deployment.<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > no. you are updating the policy to say:<br class="">> >> No space allocation from the last /8 if you can’t show IPv6.<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > … which is enforcing *your* idea of how their network should run.<br class="">> > … which is not what afrinic should do.<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > assume i am a later-comer.<br class="">> > assuming i have need for IPv4 for a purpose you cannot imagine.<br class="">> > assume i have done the math, and i do not need IPv6 for a period of time that i feel is acceptable to me.<br class="">> > or, that i can get IPv6 from my transit. or .. [$scenario].<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > v4 and v6 are different resources. this is why we have different policies for each.<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> > —n.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">> RPD mailing list<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" class="">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>