<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 17, 2016, at 06:30 , ALAIN AINA <<a href="mailto:aalain@trstech.net" class="">aalain@trstech.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">On Jun 16, 2016, at 8:58 PM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 16, 2016, at 01:26 , Evelyn Namara <<a href="mailto:evelyngeek@gmail.com" class="">evelyngeek@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Andrew,<br class=""><br class=""></div>It is not guaranteed that if Farmer 3 gets all the fuel he needs he will then supply to all customers of 3, 2, 1. He may have his hidden agendas and supply his own customers and the rest of the customers will not be fed well.<br class=""><br class=""></div>Every farmer knows how they deal with their customers, you can not come in as farmer 3 and know all the needs of my customers.<br class=""><br class=""></div>IPV4 will NOT rot (In summary)<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>One could actually make a legitimate case that IPv4 is already rotting. Sure, it has value today as the majority of the internet remains on IPv4 today. However, the rate of IPv4 adoption has certainly been slowing and the rate of IPv6 adoption accelerating. At some point, IPv6 will be the majority of the internet and the value/usefulness of IPv4 will approximate that of rotten vegetables… We might be able to apply it as a fertilizer to something, but it will be of little value and it will smell pretty bad.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When I talk about pulling the plug on IPv4 life support, I’m not talking about destroying the existing IPv4 internet. I’m talking about no longer expanding it. Not putting more customers behind more layers of IPv4 NAT without an IPv6 solution in place. Not creating more problems for us to have to upgrade later as the world moves to IPv6.</div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here, CGN is part of "normal" Internet life. The worry is more from those over there(probably not on this list) who are going for CGN, stack of NAT, 96-bit NAT,etc.. instead of IPV6.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There’s simply no excuse today for building out an IPv4-only network.</div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We knew this since RFC1933 (1996), even before, but did not make happen.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So let me propose an IPv6 plan for AFRICA from AFRINIC perspective:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1- Lets adopt the Soft landing proposal which imposes IPv6 ressources(PA or PI) before IPv4 allocation.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It will stop people for getting IPv4 without requesting IPV6. It also make members/users work on IPv6 plans to convince their parent LIRs or to meet the assignment and allocation criteria specified in the policies*</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>So what… What good does it do to force someone to request IPv6 resources?</div><div><br class=""></div><div>We need them to DEPLOY IPv6, not merely request IPv6 addresses.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>If you’ve got some way to meaningfully measure a reasonable deployment effort against IPv4 resources, that would be an interesting policy alternative IMHO. Forcing them to consume resources in one area just for the sake of consuming them in order to get the resources they want doesn’t strike me as useful in any way.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class="">2- Lets adopt the Audit/review policy to describe how AFRINIC shall proceed with auditing members ressources utilisation(IPv6 in this case) and tell compliance level and issues/reasons of non-deployment of IPv6.</div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Is there a detailed policy proposal? I haven’t seen it. Could you post it to rpd so we can evaluate and potentially adopt it?</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class="">3- Lets request AFRINIC R&D team to do an IPV6 readiness analysis per member:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- IPv6 allocation/assignments in Whois</div><div class="">- Route6 objects in the IRR</div></div></blockquote>This is entirely optional<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class="">- Routing policy in the IRR</div></div></blockquote>This is entirely optional<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class="">- IPv6 prefixes in the routing table</div></div></blockquote>Which routing table would you examine for this data?</div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class="">- IP6.arpa sub-domains delegation</div><div class="">- DNS over IPv6</div><div class="">- Org web site over IPv6</div><div class="">- Etc…</div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Mostly this seems reasonable to me, but I’ll point out that the list is missing any concept of IPv6 services available to customers/end-users.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class="">And rank members based on their IPv6 readiness. It will tell where we are and may help folks making decisions. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Does it sound like a good plan ?</div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I think some aspects of it have some potential.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">*<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/132-afpub-2007-v6-001" class="">http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/132-afpub-2007-v6-001</a></div><div class=""><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/122-afpub-2013-v6-001" class="">http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/122-afpub-2013-v6-001</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">—Alain</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Andrew Alston<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="white" link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US" class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">The IPv4 may not rot, but the customers at the market will still be going hungry because we’re trying to be fair to the farmers – and people will still starve.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">Andrew<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><div class="" style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span class="" style="font-family: Calibri;">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="" style="font-family: Calibri;">Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com" target="_blank" class="">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 10:30 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>>, Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank" class="">noah@neo.co.tz</a>>, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank" class="">owen@delong.com</a>></span></p><div class=""><div class="h5"><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>rpd List <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"> :-) I like the introduction of analogys to the thread.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">Difference here is that the v4 will not rot and that those who have and want more should be encouraged to only get V6 if they want additional resources. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">I think this would offer a win-win outcome for all those in the region.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">Regards<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">On 6/16/16, 10:20 AM, "Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank" class="">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p></div><blockquote class="" style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-left-width: 4.5pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt; margin-left: 3.75pt; margin-right: 0cm;"><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">Let me put this another way.</span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"> </span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">Lets say hypothetically we have 3 farmers, and they all have vegetables to deliver to 3 different markets. The people at the markets are hungry and waiting for the vegetables.</span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"> </span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">There is fuel, and hypothetically, it could get all 3 farmers trucks to the market, but only one trip each.</span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"> </span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">Farmer 1 has a truck – except it has no tyres</span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">Farmer 2 has a truck - except its battery is dead</span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">Farmer 3 has a working truck.</span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"> </span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">It’s going to take a month before Farmer 1 and Farmer 2 have their trucks repaired, and the vegetables only last a week before they go bad.</span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"> </span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">Do we, a.) Say that in the interest of fairness to the farmers, we let Farmer 3 make 1 trip, and then for the next 3 weeks, Farmer 1, 2 and 3 have all their vegetables go bad while the people at the markets all starve or b.) Do we say, we have one working truck, that can deliver to the markets, he is in a position to feed the people at that market, so, let him have the fuel he needs to do that, so at least some people get fed, even if Farmer 1 and 2 are disadvantaged?</span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"> </span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">In my view, it’s a clear cut thing, Farmer 1 gets the fuel, because not giving it to him hurts the people far more than giving it to him and letting him deliver every vegetable he can.</span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"> </span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">Let those who can use it have it, so long as its used for the advantage of the African community – do not artificially constrain things and hurt everyone just to try and be “fair”</span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"> </span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;">Andrew</span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"> </span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri;"> </span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><div class="" style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span class="" style="font-family: Calibri;">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="" style="font-family: Calibri;">Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank" class="">noah@neo.co.tz</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 8:36 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank" class="">owen@delong.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>rpd List <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [rpd] Statistics on IPV4 allocation in Africa as of 2016</span><span class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><p class=""><span class=""><br class="">On 16 Jun 2016 03:51, "Owen DeLong" <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 12:33 , Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank" class="">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br class="">>><br class="">>><br class="">>> On 15 Jun 2016 22:03, "Owen DeLong" <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">>> ><br class="">>> ><br class="">>> > Instead, the best thing is for all of us to recognize that IPv4 has become unsustainable and stop depending on its continued availability.<br class="">>> ><br class="">>><br class="">>> We can similarly recognise that Crude Oil fossils and their byproducts Diesel and Petrol [IPv4] are unsustainable a d stop depending on their continued availability.<br class="">>><br class="">>> We should all go for Solar Energy [IPv6] after all the Sun is so abundant in supply and everyone will have unlimited energy through solar.<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> Agreed… I have 31 panels on my roof generating approximately 108% of my total electrical needs and feeding the excess back to the power utility in my area. (I use about 1.2kw average consumption and my solar system generates about 6.5kW peak output about 5-6 hours per day during summer).<br class="">><br class="">> How about you?<br class="">><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class=""><span class="">Needless to say, am sure you got my point. :-)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class=""><span class="">> Owen<br class="">><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class=""><span class="">Noah<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri;">_______________________________________________ RPD mailing list<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank" class="">RPD@afrinic.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">RPD mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" class="">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><br class=""><br clear="all" class=""><br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class="">Evelyn Namara | T: +256 754 440893 | E:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:enamara@riseup.net" target="_blank" class="">enamara@riseup.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>| Twitter:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.twitter.com/enamara" target="_blank" class="">@enamara</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>| Skype: enamara<br class=""><br class="">PGP: B94D 3950 38D6 914A E054 D6C5 E82E 0F66 DC01 E30D<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">RPD mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" class="">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class="" style="font-family: Monaco; 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